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Pet Chat Recording June 28th

• Jason and Kris Zackowski

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Jason an Kris share updates on their dogs Bunsen, Beaker, and Bernoulli, as well as cat Ginger, covering health updates, socialization progress, and hilarious escape stories.

• Bunsen has recovered better than expected from his health issues but remains on-leash for safety
• Ginger was a rescue whose name felt perfect without needing a science-themed replacement
• Beaker has overcome socialization challenges through regular visits to doggy daycare
• Bernoulli has discovered an unexpected friendship with miniature horses at a new care facility
• Ginger has mastered multiple escape techniques, including using Bernoulli as an unwitting accomplice
• Beaker provided comfort to students during final exams, showing her progress with strangers
• The Fun Facts with Bernoulli book is completed and will soon be available in the store
• The Bernoulli pre-sale stuffy opportunity remains open until the end of June

Pet Chat will be on hiatus for the next two weeks, returning July 19th with special guest artist John Heim.



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Speaker 1:

Hello pet enthusiasts, Welcome to Pet Chat. My name is Jason Zukowski. I'm the dog dad of Bunsen, Beaker and Bernoulli the science dogs of social media.

Speaker 2:

My co-hostess with the most is Hi there, my name is Chris Zukowski and I am the dog mom of Bunsen, beaker and Bernoulli and the cat mom to Ginger.

Speaker 1:

Every week in Pet Chat. We try to multicast. We had a little tech problem today. Instagram crashed. We try to bring together our platforms on Facebook, instagram and Twitter together. Sometimes it doesn't work, that's okay. It is what it is. We have a strong feed going to Facebook right now and Twitter Live and Twitter Spaces. It is what it is All right. We're going to start with some Q&A is what it is all right. We're going to start with some q a now. We don't have the big instagram crew who likes to ask a lot of questions, so our q a might be short, so we'll start with that today.

Speaker 1:

If you have some questions for chris or I about the dogs, the cat, anything, type them up. You could, even if you're on spaces, come up to ask a question with audio. We'll take that. So we'll give everybody a second to ask some questions if they have one. Because what happened in the past, as I've said, is some people have they just really wanted to interact with us or ask a question, and then we were saving those to the very end, which I think was frustrating a bit because people were having to wait so long and maybe they don't have an hour of time to give up. Okay, so we'll give everybody a second here to type up, ask their questions and if not, then we'll move on. That's okay. People are saying hello. People are talking about ginger did or strut through.

Speaker 2:

She's right there, going right by Bernoulli. Oh, look at that look at that, and now right to Bunsen looking out the window yeah thinking maybe I can jump on that dog and get out the window.

Speaker 1:

Bernoulli's watching her okay, we got some questions, chris. We'll start with nicole. Nicole is and could you check the chat on twitter, chris and I'll do the live yes, I have been checking the chat, okay, perfect how's bunsen's health now?

Speaker 1:

is he off to? Is he back to off lead walks again? We think his health is doing great. We are not having him on off-league leaf league, the off-leash walks. I think this week we're going to be booking him in for some rehab like physio chris. That's the plan on monday. It's just been.

Speaker 1:

It's been a slow process because a physio occurs during the day and chris and I are teachers and that is very difficult to get time off during the day to take him to it. So we were waiting for for the summer. If it was more of an emergency we'd be faster. But he is doing great. He doesn't seem to be in any discomfort. He's coming on walks with us that we do monitor him very carefully. And we were told you were told, I think that even with surgery he would only get back to 80% best case scenario and I think he's better than 80%, back to better than 80%. And then we were told that he may never be allowed to go on off-leash walks again because of the chance that he could cause a re-injury. Anything else to add, chris, before we go to the next one?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because if we go off leash, the dogs play together and they run up to each other and they have a great time. And anything like a play bow or going down a hill and getting knocked over or pushed by Bernoulli as he just streamlines by because he is a bull in a china shop, that's for sure. We just wouldn't want that to happen.

Speaker 1:

So that's just our way of keeping our he's my baby, he's my puppy keeping him safe yeah, that's a good question he still gets to yeah, he still gets to enjoy time with us, and we didn't get to enjoy time with him okay now I think that we're going to save holly's questions for our main stories of the week because it's about to burn newly's new play camp. So we'll save Holly. We'll get to your question. We're going to save that for a little bit later. Jenny asked a really good question why ginger didn't get a sciencey name. Chris, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

So ginger was a rescue and we had to have her. Adam and I were in bone and Biscuit here in Red Deer and they have the society that they work with that rescues animals. And we saw Ginger and I said, Adam, we have to get this cat. And her name was Ginger. And when she was there and I, when we brought her home after it was all said and done and I said, Are you okay with her name? Do you want to change her name? We can change it to something sciencey and Adam's no, her name is just fine the way she is and that's her. That's. We love her. Yeah, Just the way she is.

Speaker 1:

On Twitter, cowboy cat ranch has a question about beakers adventure and that's going to be my story of the week, so we'll get to that story when we get to stories of the week. We'll take a couple more and then we'll get to that story. When we get to stories of the week, we'll take a couple more and then we'll get to the normal part of the program. How would you say this person's name, chris? I don't want to say it wrong manisha manishi.

Speaker 1:

sorry, misha, misha dean yeah, misha dean what made you want to get a golden retriever to go along with your bernies. So bunsen came after we we had we lost our first family dog, callan, and callan was a golden retriever. So she was a big part of our family and a huge part of my heart and I love that dog so much. I I love, I love golden retrievers. So after we got Bunsen and there were so many good things about Bunsen and specific to his breed that are just amazing I was missing the golden retriever part and she was such a good fit for Bunsen. She was a little chaotic puppy.

Speaker 1:

I've been reposting on meta uh, their interactions every day. I try to post a new episode. I think we're up to like episode five or six. So, yeah, they got along really great. Yeah, she was a COVID puppy too, so we got her when we had time at home. Of course there's. We had to fight some socialization issues with her a little later, so it was good time to get a dog. It was very tough to socialize her, but she's doing great now I'm at home. Of course, we had to fight some socialization issues with her a little later, so it was a good time to get a dog.

Speaker 2:

It was very tough to socialize her, but she's doing great now Anything else to add Chris, yeah, and I found that interesting because I thought, oh, you know what, she'll know how to be a dog, because we have a dog at home. But socializing a dog isn't just staying at home with your other dog, it's being out in the wild, yeah, and seeing other dogs in the wild, yeah, and there's a certain energy she doesn't appreciate, and so it's called luckily.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's called Bernoulli, but he gets on her last nerve and she tells him yeah, sometimes he'll just be sitting there and doing nothing and she just has an issue with him and we're like beaker, what's going on?

Speaker 2:

so anyway, he's done nothing. Yeah, did I share the success story at the vet when she walked in and she walked right into the bum of a german shepherd?

Speaker 2:

uh no so when beaker on monday, it might be that last Monday or the Monday before she got her updated shots or updated vaccines and she walked right in and normally I'm pretty careful, but like she was, she sat before we went in Everything's calm, everything's great. And she walked in and then she was like boop nose to butt of a German Shepherd and I was like, oh, but you know what? Nothing happened. Yeah, cause, sometimes when she doesn't know the dog, she's whoa and nothing happened. And the other mom, she's cause and plus, dogs are on leash when you're in the vet office. So, like some dogs are not well trained on leash or it adds to that more aggression. And the other dog mom said, yeah, my dog is not great on leash, is a bit leash aggressive, and there was no issue. So we attribute that to her continuing to go to waggles and playing with her friends and we're so proud of her. If you're watching on live, you can see Ginger right across the screen there.

Speaker 1:

She's going to lay down next to Bernoulli. That's what she's been doing all week.

Speaker 2:

He's watching her.

Speaker 1:

He has the angel and devil on his shoulders right now. The devil's maul her and the angel's be a good boy. Oh, he's going to be a good boy.

Speaker 2:

He's going to be a good boy. Yeah, maybe if I go from this angle and flick my tail she tries to get him to do stuff.

Speaker 1:

See, if she was, I don't know. We sometimes get angry comments about how mean bernoulli is. When he was a puppy and I was like if she was scared of him or didn't like him she would not come anywhere near him at all. She always came back for more anyways, oh, maybe there's some licking here happening. All right time for stories of the week. Chris, you go first. You got a story about horsing around oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

So holly's question at the very beginning was has bernoulli been expelled from waggles?

Speaker 2:

and the answer is absolutely not no they do love him there and actually he's done some improvements. Now there are a few ladies that do really pique his interest there at Waggles, like Lottie. He really likes her, and there's another one I have to think of her name. So those days, willow, those days are a little tougher on him in the morning, when the ladies are there and he's fresh. In the afternoon he's tired, he's oh no, it's too hot, I'm too tired, I don't need any activity. But he has not been expelled from Waggles but we are looking at another venue for when we are going away to our trip, which is coming up quite quickly.

Speaker 2:

I have a friend coming over to watch the dogs because waggles couldn't accommodate them for the entire trip length and I was like whoa, three dogs is a lot, Like three dogs is a lot for me. Three dogs and Ginger, who is escapee, likes to jump out and get out, that's a lot for a human to handle and I know, I know Amy would feel awful if something were to happen, because Ginger got out on Jason today and he knows that she's going to get out and then she's wink and out, she goes, and then, ah, what do you do? Because then the dogs, you have to get them in the house and it's a gong show. It's a gong show our life. So I've taken bernoulli to another place, another facility, that because really I think taking care of look at them, look at bunsen and beaker. That's what they do all day.

Speaker 1:

They just lay around and ginger just lays around too.

Speaker 2:

There are couch potatoes they are, but bernoulli in the mix is a lot. We're taking him to another facility that has miniature horses and Bernoulli loves them.

Speaker 1:

He loves the miniature horses.

Speaker 2:

He loves them and there's other dogs there and he looks at them and he's like you're a dog, it's okay, the other dogs are very interested in him. But he goes right up to the miniature horses and goes nose to nose with them and he really likes them and it's like therapy. They just go nose to nose and just hang out and it's super awesome. Like they, they just go nose to nose and just hang out and it's super awesome. He really gets along with a miniature red stallion and just a few others there that he really likes.

Speaker 1:

So that's good, so it's a win yeah, he puts his nose up to the because the horses aren't in the same pen as Bernoulli. Right, he's, they're separated. But he go, he sees he wants to see the horse. All day. Horses, and they put their nose together, which is super cute. We may ask them if they will take a picture, but they generally don't like media taken. They also don't know who Bernoulli is. He's just a dog. So we might want to keep it that way too. Yeah, because it might be weird. Hey, hey, could you take a picture of Bernoulli interacting with the horse for social media and yeah, so that would be a whole thing.

Speaker 2:

No, and he's gone. For what I really appreciate about this place is they like to keep their current client safe, so they do vet the dogs that they take under their care, and but they also want to keep any other dogs, like new dogs, safe too. They're like. We would really like to get to know him a little bit, make sure that he responds to, responds to them in a positive way, and of course Bernoulli does. He is a good dog, but he also at the first he's I'm not sure about you and he's just shy, he just gets shy.

Speaker 1:

He's a bit shy.

Speaker 2:

He just gets a little bit shy and what we want him. We just worked really well. It's going to work great. I'm I know it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then once he's there, he's happy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And somebody was asking, I think Steve, in comments, who's bigger, bunsen or the horses? And we were told they're the exact same size, Bernoulli and the horse. They're the same size. All right, good story, chris. My story of the week is on Tuesday Tuesday. Was it Tuesday Tuesday last week?

Speaker 1:

The chem 30s and Chem 20s my students, wrote their final exam. So the Chem 30s have this big government test in Alberta, canada, called the diploma, and that is written by teams of usually teachers, and then it is a very tough, very rigorous test. All 30-1, 30-2 subjects have these tests and then those tests are part of your mark and that's mandated by the government. So schools don't get to decide how much of the test is part of your final mark. The government decides. Now it used to be 50%, so they were very high stakes, very stressful tests for kids Because like you could have a 70 and you could have test anxiety and write a 50 and then your average is a 60. Right, you'd average the two. The diplomas have dropped to 30, so there's still pretty big chunk. Anybody who's gone to post-secondary knows that your final is usually worth a big chunk. So it's getting the kids ready for that.

Speaker 1:

Long story short, I brought Beaker because Bernoulli was off that day. He was, I think, at that place. Chris, I think he was at. No, oh, he was at Waggles. He was at Waggles. He was at Waggles, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, he wasn't. He was at home.

Speaker 1:

On Tuesday it was.

Speaker 2:

Monday your it was Monday, your exam was on Monday.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I got the days wrong. Yeah, bernoulli was at home.

Speaker 2:

And I was trying to book for Monday.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, yeah, I got this wrong.

Speaker 2:

Bernoulli and Beaker don't go to Waggles on Monday. But then I canceled.

Speaker 1:

Bernoulli on Tuesday so he could go to the facility. I didn't bring Bernoulli because I was still helping kids all day, because the Chem 20s wrote at one. And it's not that Bernoulli is a bad dog, he's just still a puppy and smells bad, smelt bad, because he was swimming in sloughs and I didn't want to make the kids grossed out about how he smells. So it was just Beaker and she did great. She was all smiles all day. She I waited outside the gym where the kids wrote their final and she a lot of the kids petted her on the way in. Yeah, it was. She's very sweet with the kids, so she's miss gregarious loves everybody. It was awesome. Yeah, so that's the beaker story. I don't have anything. I don't have anything else, chris.

Speaker 2:

Was I going to say another story, Remember I was talking about? Oh, I should add that to the story.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I can't remember. That's something I could talk about this week During this pet chat. I even talked about it?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Maybe it was during the Kah about it, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it was during the kahoot, I don't know I don't know we did.

Speaker 1:

I picked up the dogs was it thursday? I picked them up, I think so, from waggles and I asked and char is the owner, she was the one that was doing drop off and I asked her how bernoulli's day was and it was much the same, like he had a good day getting better. And then I asked about beaker, because I'm always curious how she's doing and they're just like they just love beaker so much there. She gets along with all the dogs, she has little dog friends that she runs around with and plays, and so that I just wanted to, like I told char we're just so thankful that we were able to bring Beaker because, like, her ability to get all get along with dogs was like 50 50 sometimes she would like dogs, sometimes she wouldn't, and now it's way, way higher and she has dog friends but, jason, I think that can be attributed to what we were doing.

Speaker 2:

So if we're in the vehicle, that's her vehicle and this is my vehicle and you're not allowed in my vehicle, and so she'll bark at them, and so it's mainly stems from that resource protecting, and that could be attributed to COVID, where she just was at home. We all were at home and I hung out with her all day at home because I taught from home. And so her normal is this is my place, this is my, this is my family. They're mine and not yours. It doesn't want to share.

Speaker 1:

Somebody reminded you in the chat, it's Ginger and the Storms. You in the chat, it's ginger and ginger and the storms.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, ginger and the storms. Okay, we live in Alberta and we definitely experienced inclement weather, but not like BC, where I'm from, where it would rain and rain. And what's the weather today? Raining here in Alberta it can be sunny one minute and then thunderstorming the next minute. And so what happens is Ginger. We didn't realize this at first, but with the first or second storm we noticed that she goes downstairs and she does hide. And the other dogs, they don't care, they don't care at all about the storms, they're like not even worried. In fact Jason's oh, let's go for a walk. And I said Jason, a storm is coming, there's lightning over there, and Jason's it's fine, the dogs will be fine. I'm like we are not going out Because thunder and lightning can be frightening, especially to dogs, and I didn't want them to get spooked. But yeah, ginger doesn't like the storms and at first I was scared we lost her that she somehow got outside, but she didn't. She just was really hiding very well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, down downstairs, usually behind a couch. There's a couple of couches downstairs, yeah, and a bunch of clutter. That's a job for the summer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like I was looking at it today, adam is purging his closet. Yeah, and you would think that maybe he would be taking it to goodwill?

Speaker 1:

no, but just just just to.

Speaker 2:

The couch is just to the like out of his room, just into the living area down there. This hasn't even made it very far but he's purchased his closet like there it is, but it's not. When do the next step Get it out of the house? All right I purged my closet last summer, so I'm going to do it again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it's smart to do that and then give to goodwill what you don't need, if you can do community sharing more stuff. Just kidding. Yeah, absolutely no-transcript oh nice, yeah, I I left. Oh, is that why you're private chatting me?

Speaker 1:

oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So one other thing you'll notice. One of the things you'll start to notice or hear is I've I met with sebastian dr ball from cowboy cat wrench today and we're gonna be doing some promotion for what they do. So you'll I haven't don't have an ad or anything yet written for them, so that's coming, but you'll see, like in our newsletter, some stuff about cowboy cat because they do good stuff for cats, good research for cats and cat well-being, and, of course, we love cats and we love ginger right so that's if you're looking, yeah, and if you're looking here on audio spaces, the avatar is a pink purpley background with cowboy a black cat and it's CCR feline research center and there's a whole story about cowboy the cat.

Speaker 2:

And just leading into what Sebastian is doing now, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1:

So if you'd like to, if you'd like to come up to share a story on Twitter or X, we'll have you, and if you want to and if you want to type up a story, we'll read it. I think Tracy typed up a story for us. Yeah, tracy, sure did I'll put that in test and do you want to read it, or do you want me to read it?

Speaker 2:

I can read it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

So cats and I are good. Tracy has two cats. They're tuxedo cats. They are named Amy and Holt, and you might know those names from Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Tracy's a huge fan of that show and they're good. Tracy had her window fixed because it was broken and the cats have not broken anything else, which is good, and they were party animals last night. So she is very tired. I will wear them out with a laser cat toy that they love and going home to them now and hoping to sleep better tonight.

Speaker 2:

I tell you cats and shenanigans. Ginger broke two of my candle holders. You're like oh. And then I bought OK, this is awkward I bought a grad frame for to put Adam's grad picture in, to put it beside duncan's and jason's what's this for? And I'm like oh, for adam's grad picture. And he's oh, from when he graduated two years ago. And I'm like oh, yeah, that's that tracks um better than ever okay, yeah, ginger broke it, so I have.

Speaker 2:

I'm like it's okay, I can glue it. And then you said that's exactly what adam said, that you can glue it yeah yeah, if nobody else wants to come up.

Speaker 1:

There's a request for a story of ginger getting out. That would be a daily occurrence, though.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we can explain how it happens.

Speaker 1:

It depends? No, it depends. So Ginger gets into the garage nearly every day because the way the door opens she hides in the blind spot and you have to like you're like, you're looking in, you're looking in, you don't see the cat, and then you have to look in just enough to see her and it's that at that point she can escape. So when you open the door, you don't see a cat. She's right around the blind spot of the way the door opens.

Speaker 1:

And then, to make matters worse, usually there's three dogs, big dogs, super happy to see you, and you're like, oh hi, dogs, and super happy to see you. And you're like oh hi, dogs. And just as you're saying oh hi, the cat shoots out underneath their legs and into the garage and that's relatively safe for her. There's nothing harmful in the garage, like there's no antifreeze she can get into and she's caught a mouse or two. So she likes going into the garage to like hunt, I think yeah, because it's like a chance for a prize every time yeah, it's like the hunger games in there for her, but she shouldn't be hungry no, she shouldn't be hungry, okay, but it's.

Speaker 2:

But at the front door, there it's a bit more of a problem because she can get out and into the wild and we have to run and catch her. Sometimes she runs, sometimes she doesn't.

Speaker 1:

It's just unpredictable yeah, that door opens into the wild world yeah all right.

Speaker 1:

So that's the how ginger gets out. Sometimes, the sometimes it's bernoulli's fault, because you open the door, crack to see if the cat's there. And if the cat's there, you're like go, ginger, go. And she's I'm a cat, I don't listen to this. So you have to like shoot. You shoot her with your foot or your hand or something. You don't hurt her or anything, and she's okay, I'll go, that's. I understand that. I don't understand what you're talking to me. I'm not, I don't care. And then bernoulli will take his big head and he'll go here's bernoulli wham. And he'll smash his head through the crack of the door, flinging the door open. And then Ginger can get out. And you don't see that coming because you're looking at the cat through the crack. You're like Ginger move. And then all of a sudden there's a Bernoulli head that has smashed the door open because he's a goober.

Speaker 2:

And it's especially bad if you have your hands full. Oh yeah, that's the worst because you can't stop anything. You can't stop anything, yeah, but it is almost a daily occurrence happening at our house, but I try and not let her out.

Speaker 1:

No, she shouldn't go out, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2:

She shouldn't. It's dangerous out in the wild for her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right. Hey, we've got no speakers, chris First time. Yeah, all right. Hey, we've got no speakers, chris, first time ever. We can answer a couple more questions and then we can have an early night, maybe, if everybody's okay with that.

Speaker 2:

Leverages the dogs yes, yeah, she does use the dog to her advantage yes she also is getting very good at.

Speaker 2:

I like I liken it to vegas in a slot machine, because she'll shove her paw into her automatic feeder and, if it's just right, she'll flick her wrist and more food will come out. And then she keeps trying. But I think like she gets it a certain way and then she has to wait for the cycle to deliver more food and then she's back at it, she's. She is like someone at the slots who's addicted to getting the prize.

Speaker 1:

And my analogy is she reminds me of the older hoodlums, the older like when I was growing up there you'd go to the arcade and that was a lot of fun. And at the arcade there'd be hoodlums there that would be screwing around with the pinball machines and they knew how to get extra games from the pinball machines. And that's who she reminds me of.

Speaker 2:

Jenny on the screen. My Rosie cat lurks by the door. When she does escape, usually because of her 80 pound golden doodle she immediately seems to freeze and wonder why she wanted to get out and then runs back in. Yeah, sometimes we see that with Ginger, but sometimes she's see you later.

Speaker 1:

She doesn't go far, I'm going to go eat.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't go far. She could go far. She could, and she is a crafty little thing, kelly, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1:

Madison likes your nails, Chris.

Speaker 2:

Oh, hey, thank you, they're amazing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, kara says, as you're talking about, ginger is trending on Twitter. Chris, I actually saw that as I was logging in. I don't know why. I don't know which ginger is trending. There's Ginger the Beagle so that ginger. There's Gingerbread Tiggs, who is some cat, I don't know who. Gingerbread Tiggs, red Tigs they have a somewhat viral video. It's a black cat. I'm just looking through the what it is and none of it. Oh, there's text from Bunsen with us, but none of it is like our cat, ginger. I don't know why ginger is trending On Twitter. That's weird. Okay, the video of ginger was cute. She did seem to like it was the win more than the one little kibble.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true, I think we'll, when you get rewarded with one kibble, but then sometimes you get four and then sometimes whoa. You just never know. It's always a game. In the chat Pamela said my cat tries to go down into the basement and Pam Pamela chased her down the furnace and back up the stick, back up the stairs. Didn't want her getting spied with spider webs on her.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, ew, I think we'll wrap it up, chris, and not keep everybody while we stall for time. Sometimes that happens, that's okay. Just a couple of things on our end. Three things, really. Very excitingly, the Fun Facts with Bernoulli book we wrote that folks who got it in the science bundle, the bernoulli science bundle, bernoulli's principle you're all going to get that and the pop pop, pop hack. People have already got the digital copy of the book. Tomorrow I'll be sending that out to everybody else so that you get that for free everybody who got the bernoulli bundle. But those books are on the way to our house, so we're really excited to see what they look like. We have to hold a certain amount back for the bundle, of course, and then the rest will be on our store, so we'll try to keep it at a price that's fair, and I think everybody who gets the book will also get the digital book with it too, for free. I think it's really well done and I hope everybody likes it. Who gets it?

Speaker 2:

We love it.

Speaker 1:

It was so fun to write. Yeah, it was. I got to do a little bit of text from Bunsen like that kind of back and forth humor along with facts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and of course, there's pictures of our dogs that some of you may or may not have seen. I'm not sure if you're aware. There's very. There's an astronomical amount of pictures on the phone and we can't share them all, so sometimes you get a sneak peek of something that you've never seen before. It's like the pinball slash slot machine beater Sometimes you've seen, get one, and sometimes you get stuff that you've never seen.

Speaker 1:

That's true.

Speaker 1:

That's true, we opened the Bernoulli pre-sale stuffy till the end of June. So we got a whole schwack of new fans who joined us on Instagram and Facebook and they guaranteed they had no idea this was a thing. So I opened it and I haven't really been pushing it that hard Like one advertisement every three days in a story and then in the newsletter. It is what it is. I don't want to like in date people with that because it's gross. But if you were interested, it is open till the end of June and then it's closed, so all of the deals that come with it. It is open till the end of June and then it's closed, so all of the deals that come with it. Like, chris and I sourced a bunch of fun stuff that the pre-sale is going to get the regular sales isn't, so just a heads up there. And then we are taking a hiatus from Pet Chat for a bit. So we are on holidays, not next week, but the week after. We fly out early on Sunday.

Speaker 1:

So we will need saturday to like prep and stuff like that yeah, don't tell people the exact things okay, but I'm just saying we're not gonna have pet chat on saturday, yeah, and then that will be two saturdays in a row we will not have pet chat. So there will not be pet chat on the 5th and there will not be pet chat on the 12th, and then we're back on the 19th with a special guest chris. Should I say now I don't, should I say who the special guest is?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I wasn't sure, because sometimes you like to keep a secret, but then you actually can't keep a secret.

Speaker 1:

No, I can't keep any secrets. I'm so bad.

Speaker 2:

And then I'm the gatekeeper of the secrets, but is this something that you want to share, or do you want to keep mystery?

Speaker 1:

No, I can tell people, our guest on the 19th is the artist John Hoym, so we're going to be talking to him about the process that he goes through with the art that he does. If you're especially on Twitter, he does just such a good job of capturing some of the moments that the pets have go through in a very heartfelt manner, in a very heartfelt way.

Speaker 2:

This is an amazing get, yeah, john Haim.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I need to post the photo that he did. I just forgot actually, so I gotta take some pictures of it. Who's that?

Speaker 2:

adam, yeah yes okay adam is our dog. Whisperer look at that.

Speaker 1:

That, okay, as we close out today, summer has officially started for Chris and I. I started a little bit earlier than you, and today was like your first day of summer because you worked yesterday.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it was, and today I got to do a whole bunch of laundry. That was a prize. Yeah, I folded socks. Well, it's got to be done. It's got to be done, yeah, so I did that and we had a great day. It was a good day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay. So we will see you guys in a bit. We will not be back for a while. Again, we won't be back till June or July 19th. So no patch at the 5th, no patch at the 12th, and then we're back on the 19th. So take care, everybody, enjoy the first part of your summer when we're back after a holiday. Chris and I are going to be hard at work on finishing the calendar and text from Bunsen volume four, which we should have art for soon, and it's going to be I don't know what the best word for the art is Bittersweet.

Speaker 2:

Bittersweet, but keep this one a secret. This one's a secret, yeah, this one's a secret, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, take care everybody, we'll see you guys in a couple weeks.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for coming.

Speaker 1:

Okay, bye-bye.

Speaker 2:

Bye-bye, bye-bye.