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Pet Chat Recording From June 22

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We celebrate a milestone of 200,000 Instagram followers, reflecting on how their platform has grown from a "ghost town" into a thriving community where cute dogs help deliver science education.

• The hosts share updates about their dogs, including Bunsen's recovery progress
• Jason shares exciting wildlife footage captured on their trail cam, featuring a great horned owl
• Community member Holly recounts the story of her cat Toby escaping through an unlatched door
• Paula shares her experience rescuing a robin fledgling and connecting with a wildlife rehabilitator
•Kris tells the story of rescuing a great horned owl that was later rehabilitated and released
• The hosts and community members discuss the importance of proper wildlife rescue protocols
• Bunsen and Ginger's "Operation Beauty and the Beast" team-up to raid the cat food

Join us next Saturday for another episode of Pet Chat, and Paw Pack members can catch us tomorrow for our special community chat.


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Speaker 1:

Go. Hello pet enthusiasts, Welcome to Pet Chat. My name is Jason Zukoski. I'm the dog dad of Bunsen, Beaker and Bernoulli, the science dogs of social media, and my co-hostess with the most is.

Speaker 2:

Hi there, it's Chris Zukoski here, coming in from the basement and watching our dogs on the live cam and beaker is barking at bernoulli yes oh but I am the dog mom to bunsen, beaker and bernoulli and the cat mom to ginger yeah, welcome to pet chat everybody.

Speaker 1:

So hello, and if you're tuning in from, if you've never watched Pet Chat before or listened to it, it's a live show where we wrap up, we're doing a rundown of the week and then at the end we invite people from our community to come up to talk about their pets, if they'd like. So, yeah, I'll start with my story and it's just related to everything that we do and it was a huge milestone on Instagram and we've zoomed past 200,000 followers on Instagram, which is really exciting, and I was watching it Friday because it was ticking up there and I don't know if it was a goal, but it is a number that's huge and shocking and we don't take lightly how many people follow us. So I did make a post about that, saying thank you to everybody who was starting to follow us on Instagram, because I didn't really try at Instagram a year and a bit ago, like in last year January. It was a ghost town for us on that platform. Yeah, it was. It's a big, exciting thing to reach and I think we'll only continue to get bigger and that's good because then our science message reaches more people and that's the goal is, we get you in with the cuteness, and then people learn some science along the way.

Speaker 1:

Okay, chris, over to you. Do you have a? Do you have a story of the week?

Speaker 2:

We went for a really nice walk with the dogs today and Bunsen was wanting to play with Bernoulli, like he was a spring chicken, he was super young. And speaking of the chickens, I sent you a text saying the chickens are out in full force. Be careful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I put that on Twitter, people thought it was Canada geese. They're like are they worried about the canada geese because they're cobra chickens?

Speaker 2:

yeah, no, no. So today was a really great day. The dogs got to play and in their walk and you got some real cool footage on the trail cam. Have you shared it on social media?

Speaker 1:

no, I haven't. I think I was a dummy and I didn't. I think I can share here. I can show everybody on live what it looks like. Right now I'm stuttering, but I think I accidentally put the same chip in the same camera, so we were only we only had one. So it's a window in there. So I think I can share this live and it should just take over the whole screen. Do you see that, chris? Do you see the camera footage? I do yeah, so I think I can share this live and it should just take over the whole screen. Do you see that, chris? Do you see the camera footage? I do yeah, so it's really cool. There's a great horn owl on the left-hand side there that just came down for a little drink. I love how they walk. They're so awkward.

Speaker 2:

So cute.

Speaker 1:

They're not. Is it herky jerky? I don't know how smooth it is.

Speaker 2:

No, it's pretty smooth, pretty smooth. Yeah, oh man, I love owls so much they're so cool. They're neat birds. Yeah, so that was cool footage to find. Yeah, on the trail cam. Yeah, no news of norbert, of course, and that always makes us sad. We wish we had more information to share about our former resident beaver. Yeah, but no, bunsen did great on the walk. I know a lot of our fans are always wondering how he's doing with his rest and recuperation. Yep, he's been doing great every day he's doing great.

Speaker 2:

We just love him to bits. He's not sliding around on the floor anymore, as he was doing previously, and yeah, so today I went over to the farmhouse to spend a little bit of time with Raffy and Ellie and the farm cats and docky dock, that's my stepdad's miniature schnauzer, but the farm cats were super cute, like they're cuddling in a basket and then they're so friendly. And then Raffi was watching some of our content. I showed him. I showed him a fun facts with bernoulli, and so it was the one about the sunscreen, actually, or no? I, yeah, the misfits, the newly, yeah, and I shared that one with him and he's like how are they talking? Where are those voices coming? Whose voice is that? Rafi was asking. It was super cute, and so he loved watching the videos. And then I showed him some of the AI podcast ones that Jason did, and he liked those too.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, it's pretty engaging when we put voices to the dogs because it's Pixar right Either. I think he was more engaged with the real dog. So that says something about even those ai fun clips that some people don't like, that we use the ai and some people love the clips because they're funny, but it was interesting to see that a human child like the one with the real dogs better yeah, in fact he said I just got to thinking maybe we can go to your house he and bernoulli have a really cool relationship.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because bernoulli was a puppy, puppy and then raffi was over here a bunch. So bernoulli just loves raffi so much and then they roar around and they get into trouble together because they get rambunctious yeah, I feel a lot better now that rappy's five and a little bigger and because, yeah, bernoulli was quite unpredictable and a puppy and those floors that we have are really unforgiving if you fall on them.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, the tile, yes yeah, it's like so I always. I'm always cautious, it's always fun to run. Until everyone in my family Jason calls it the Schwien gene. My maiden name is Schwien and we're just so klutzy and I have it and my niece has it and my great niece has it. Raffi's not as bad, but he's had some good tumbles.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's more prevalent on the female side.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe it runs on the X chromosome yeah.

Speaker 1:

Aside from that, Chris and I were so busy the last two weeks with school and we are done. We wrapped school and it's been a huge breath. We're just putting in time helping kids get ready for their tests, so we're not teaching that takes a huge load off a person. Without having to prep and mark, we're just like meeting kids and doing review with them. And my kids write Monday the chem tests, See and my kids with their math.

Speaker 2:

They wrote it on the first day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like the very first exam day, so any review we did in class and then there wasn't any extra sessions because it was like the very next day. But on the day I was in the gathering area and kids were asking questions, so I helped them out and I said you got this.

Speaker 1:

Should we move to community sharing? Anything else you want to mention, Chris?

Speaker 2:

I would love to move to community sharing.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, so we'll answer some more questions because some have come in for sure. Okay, so we'll go to a couple speakers first and then we'll answer some questions and stuff on live. So this is going to come from Twitter. Chris, I see you've brought up Holly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sasha, the Bruno Bernadudo is also known as Holly, and I'm super excited about some of the tips that you gave us for our trip. And yes, to confirm, I'll just not confirm our dates on live, but I'll it's not a secret when we're going but I don't want everybody to be like, oh, the zakoskis are not in their house, let's go to their house. So yeah, we'll just keep that through, but through text. But we're going to holly's, next to the neck of the woods. I'm going to meet sasha the burner doodle yeah yes, indeed.

Speaker 5:

So yeah, just text me back, just because I over plan everything and that's how I keep my life organized. I'm one of those people Spontaneity does not work well for me. But anyway, I just wanted to say we had a very entertaining week here in the Sasha and Toby household. Started off Monday with Sasha's seventh birthday and I cannot believe she's seven already. Like, how has it been seven years? I don't get it. But it was a great day for her because Monday is one of her hiking days. So she was with her pack on Sasha Mountain and her dog walker keeps a whole stash of birthday hats and puts them on the dogs and gets a group picture and it is so cute. I posted it on Sasha's blue sky. But yes, there's a birthday photo of her and she just looks very happy, and so that was sweet.

Speaker 5:

Thursday Toby nearly gave my husband and I a heart attack. Oh no, I'm actually glad I wasn't home. So this was entirely my husband's fault. So Chris will understand. Chris, yeah, it was a nice. My husband works from home. It was a nice day. He had lunch on our back patio. He came in and thought he shut the door, but it didn't latch. He went back up to his home office to work and came down about an hour later and realized the door was wide open and Toby was nowhere to be found.

Speaker 6:

Oh no.

Speaker 5:

So yeah, so just to give you an idea of the layout, we live in a row of three townhouses and we're on an end and behind us there's a really steep hill that goes down. It has lots of trees and shrubbery and everything. So Colin did a couple laps around the townhouses, figured he probably had gone somewhere down the hill. So he went and got a can of cat food and went and sat on the patio to see if he'd come back, which thank God he did. He smelled the cat food and came running and then Colin managed to coax him back in the house and shut and lock the door and that cat spent the entire rest of the evening meowing to get out and just being a humongous brat.

Speaker 5:

It was like he got out and realized he liked it yeah and I'd been really worried something like this could happen, because he was a stray when we adopted him, so he's lived outside before, yeah, so it's just like we're having to be so careful now going in and out either the front door or if we open the back door.

Speaker 5:

I started googling gps trackers for cats yes, you can get them I found an interesting article that was doing reviews of gps trackers for cats and it's basically, if this is your situation, we recommend this. It got down to you have an indoor cat and the recommendation was just to put an air tag on his collar that makes sense, yeah and because we're an apple family, yeah, and then that way it make, because you can make it ping, and then it's okay, we know where the cat is if he gets a cat by ping exactly that's fun now we're debating if we want to break our condos rules and get a freestanding catio, because you can't see our patio from the road because of there's a bunch of trees and everything.

Speaker 5:

So we don't think anybody would notice if we got him a catio and we. There's a company locally that makes custom catios, so we highly recommend that ginger loves her catio.

Speaker 2:

She loves it, yes, and then it's a way for her to be outside and be safe. Yes, but we have the same issue with the door. She lurks like a little ghoul and she can get in and out so quickly and sometimes she runs away very far and then sometimes she's oh, this is grass. I'm going to stay close to home and it's just, you never know what you're going to get. It's like a life of the box of chocolates. Is the cat going to run or is she just going to smell the roses?

Speaker 5:

exactly and and just because, with all the wood, the, it's not even woods behind us, it's just that the property behind us has not been developed. So there's, which for our neighborhood is shocking, but yes, there is one undeveloped parcel behind us and it's. I worry, because we have wildlife and I don't want him killing birds, and there are so many reasons I've never let my cats outside, especially because everyone I've known with an outdoor cat, their cat has wound up being killed by wildlife.

Speaker 1:

Where you live and where we live. Yeah, they don't last long and if they do, they're very lucky. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, exactly, and it's just no. No Cats live indoors in our household.

Speaker 1:

So that was our excitement for the week.

Speaker 5:

I'm glad it had a good ending. Yeah, so I had Sasha with me at work and Colin had texted me and was like, if he's not back by the time you get home, let's take Sasha and walk the perimeter and see if he comes to her, because he's so bonded to her. Yeah, so anyway, I am looking forward to seeing you guys. This is very exciting. We've been having really nice summer weather here. Chris will be happy.

Speaker 6:

That's good.

Speaker 2:

yes, I'm looking forward to nice weather yes, all right.

Speaker 1:

So I will go and mute myself now, because I could just talk to you guys all night thank you for coming and sharing, holly, and yet we're excited to see you again and, of course, sasha. We haven't met sasha yet um yeah, or what, or toto. Toby the cat, yes, you bet real quick. We'll answer this again. Nancy asked on Facebook how old Ginger is and Chris answered that we think about four, because she's a rescue.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we rescued her and, like with dogs, you can tell by the age of their teeth, but cats not so much. That's what the vets told me, because they just pop in those teeth that are terrifyingly sharp.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we figure she's about four.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Pat on Instagram is asking when our last day of work is. My last day is Wednesday and I think you go right to the bitter end until Friday. Hey.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we have grad as our last day. We go on the teacher organizational day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I did some science shows for the division so I don't get paid extra for those. I love doing them. One of the perks is I get a couple personal days, but I can only take them at the end of the school year. So I don't cost the division money with sub fees, which makes sense. But I think it's a good. It's a good little kickback for doing those science shows early in the year for the division.

Speaker 4:

All right, we'll go to paula hi paula, hi everybody, hi, how's everybody doing?

Speaker 4:

hello, hello we're good, how are you? Oh, I'm hanging in there doing a little better, but still hanging okay, but anyway, but yeah, it's been a long road but anyway, exciting day I had. It was weird we were we've had 14 weeks of straight weekend raining weather and this was like finally getting a good weekend and it was like 90 and immunity is like awful. But my poor husband was staining our deck because it has to be done every year, and I was out in the back just trying to put some flowers and water because just doing something without dying of heat exhaustion. And I look and I see a little robin fledgling underneath my anirondack chair and he's not moving but he's got his collar hanging sideways, which didn't look like a listing boat, and I was like, oh, and I tried to give him a little bit of water. You got to be careful when you give babies water, but he's a fledgling. You got to just do the tip of his beak because they have those two little nostrils and you don't want to get that involved.

Speaker 4:

But I did call an Audubon society and they said take a dipped Q-tip. And he saw that sucker coming and he just grabbed the whole Q-tip like the whole end, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know I'm going to get this and I go, let's go. It's like I was thinking he could understand me, but anyway. So he did drink a little bit but he just didn't look good and then we left him alone and the next thing, you know, he's rolling on the patio in the bright sun and I'm like an Audubon place.

Speaker 4:

Then I asked them if they knew anybody that had rehab people and they give you a list in your state from the US usually if you can call somebody, and I did leave a couple of numbers, but people were some people don't take birds, some people don't take. It depends on the bird. They'll take songbirds, there's all this take songbirds, they'll do raptors, they'll do turtles, do all kinds of stuff. So it's always good to check and this is a law which I didn't know. I learned a lot today that you cannot bring birds across your state border, so if I'm in Connecticut I can't bring one.

Speaker 1:

There's the disease they have they don't want that to transfer.

Speaker 4:

Exactly. And so it was a little touch and go. And then finally I got a hold of one lady. She's very nice and her name is Janie and she comes from Plainville or Moosup it sounds funny but it's M-O-O-S-U-P. Moosup, connecticut, and she actually has a rehab place and I'll get to that in a minute. So she said go to your emergency vet, which is my vet, so he's open 24 hours. So she said just go.

Speaker 4:

So I went unannounced with my little box and we scooped him up and we took and the parents were nuts and I said listen, I just want to make sure he didn't break a wing and if he did, if he wasn't repairable, at least they could have mainly put him down, because I don't want this poor little guy to suffer. So they took him in and they said they got swamped. They had a puppy come in that was a golden, you would have loved it. Her name was Mitzi. And then they or she was so cute, and then they had another Ridgeback that had jumped out of a window, so they had to attend him. So I was sitting there for an hour With a little bird, with this little bird, but they did take them back, because when you bring in wildlife they can't refuse. But thing with our my vet was, over the years they had eventually refused because they didn't have any wildlife people on board, like 20 vets. But yeah, they just it just kind of weaned out and it got too like overwhelming, if that makes sense, because people would find stuff. But thank god they have people that are on these lists because the Audubon has certain people. They have a website link for your state. You put in your zip code. It's called like wildlife. I have. It was like some like all wildlife thing dot org and you can put like stuff in and it comes up. It's crazy stuff.

Speaker 4:

But anyway, long story short, they didn't do an X-ray but they did a feely mealy on the guy and they saw some scrapes on his leg and wing and they said no, he's going to probably be. They weren't sure if it was anything broken like a pelvis. But he doesn't sit up. He doesn't sit. So either he fell out of the nest but he can't. His one leg just doesn't want to perch. So I called back. They said you could either put him down or bring him to this other lady. It was like what do you do? It's like you're between a rock and a hard place. So I said, okay, I'm going to bring them back.

Speaker 4:

So I brought them back home and I called this lady and she was really nice and she said mush up some blueberries, because robins eat blueberries. So we mushed up some blueberries and, sure enough, the little guy gobbled some and the parents were going nuts. So we left them in the box in the shade and we could look out the window because he was in a safe place, and we put him in a big Costco box. But he came. The parents were funny because they didn't want to go in the box, but next thing, you know, they're going in there feeding them.

Speaker 4:

This lady was so nice. She said she's an hour from me. So she said it worse came to worse and the parents, even though he was still OK but he wasn't sitting up, she would take him. So the vet actually gave him enough water that he perked up. So he did go from, I think, being a little bit dehydrated to rehydrated and the parents fed him because I watched them. They were bringing him worms and so she said she would take him. So we might be going to Moosehook tomorrow. But my other story is I was telling her about you and your show and I said how great you guys were at Pet Chat and she said she was on Facebook. So I'm hoping she will be listening and I will put it in the chat too. But her name of her place is Spicy S-P-I-C-Y, like spicy paws wildlife rehab in Plainville, connecticut, and this lady does everything. She does not everything. She does squirrels fawns she's got eight fawns. I'm going to put this picture in the chat.

Speaker 1:

She sounds like somebody we should have as a guest to talk about some of her stories.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I bet she would. It's great. I mean, she has so many nice things and stories and what I'm trying to get to here because I'm trying to talk and type at the same time. She has a wish list on Amazon so she wants kibble for like deer, diapers for deer, because she found she just got a rehab deer because somebody, I guess, hit it and it was stunned in the road and it came to the vet and it went to her house and she has four of them and I copied one of her Facebook page and you should see this thing. He's adorable. She's got six of them in the photo If anybody would like.

Speaker 4:

I know we have a lot going on with a lot of Twitter stuff, but if anybody would love to give to this court lady and her fund for a wishlist, because she does have some really nice things on there and she is in need, she's just non-profit. She's almost telling her about the herd and she was like, oh my god, she says that's great. If anybody could help her out in any way, that would be great, but it was, it was quite of. Uh, he's now in pixie's crate and he's sitting overnight in the box in there because I don't want anything to get him, so he's going to spend the night in my house.

Speaker 1:

We hope. Best wishes for the little bird.

Speaker 4:

I hope so Because, like I said, I don't know what's going to happen, but if it's something where he'll never be able to perch up, at least maybe he could have a good life with somebody hand feeding and drinking them. You know what I mean? Like just taking good care of him until I couldn't say goodbye to him, because I didn't feel it was I should let mother nature do it. Yeah, but at the same time I didn't want him to suffer.

Speaker 4:

if he was suffering, I would have asked him, had him put down and it's nice, when you bring in wildlife, that you're not responsible for that, so you don't have to pay out of your pocket. They help you out a little bit. But that was my big day, and so Trixie got little. She couldn't believe what was going on because she kept going outside to check on this bird and she was at the window like what's that? But anyway, but thank you for everything. Congratulations on making 200K on Instagram. I'm so proud of you, jason and Chris. You guys have worked so hard with your content and it's so well deserved, and you've got the biggest cheerleader and I'm so envious of Holly getting to see you guys and I did get my passport, so you know, next time auntie Paula is going to do Bunsen, so I'll be up there. You just say when and I'll be there. I mean it too, because I love that guy.

Speaker 1:

So thanks, paula.

Speaker 4:

You're welcome.

Speaker 2:

Have a good week everybody. We've just been thinking of you with your ailment and just want you to get better, and it's been a long road, like you said.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's been almost going on 14 weeks. I still got the pain but it's very slowly going away. But I took myself off of the big heavy pain meds I'm not taking those things, I value my kidneys off of the big heavy pain meds. I'm not taking those things, I value my kidneys. So I'm like on Advil, which I can almost tolerate and be on it like for the day without being too bad.

Speaker 4:

But hot, humid weather does not agree with my body right now. So it is painful but and I'm going to occupational therapy for my hand. So I'm hoping that will come back too. But it's very slow progress but I'm just got the faith that I've got good friends like you guys and everybody that was behind me. Thank you so much and congratulations to Marla too. I am so tickled pink for her and Chesney getting that house. I wish I won a lot of it. I'd buy her one because that would be my first thing to do. But anyway, I'm just so glad that that's in the works. See, dreams do come true. So, yeah, so that's always. Keep the faith and thank you everybody and I'll shut up now.

Speaker 1:

Okay, take care of Paula. You rescued many years ago an owl, chris right, you took it in the van to. Did you drive to medicine river wildlife?

Speaker 2:

No, they met us at the County fire hall yeah so the I just okay, this is dumb, this is not recommended. We saw something on the side of the road and I said I think that's an owl, and so we turned around. It was my stepdad and I and he was driving and I got out of the car and I just scooped it up and was holding on to it.

Speaker 1:

It was a great horned owl.

Speaker 2:

It was the giant horned owl and it was a juvenile, thank God. Because, like, why would you do that? Why would you just grab wildlife off the side of the road? So this is a PSA, don't do that. And his little talon went. So I wear a ring on this thumb and it just grabbed and it was like holding tight. So I'm glad I had the ring because it was holding my thumb so tight and it's like doing like the cluck cluck with its beak. I'm like, oh, you're such a cute owl. And then I was petting the owl. I'm like, oh, just, and so he obviously was injured. I'm like, oh, and so he obviously was injured. Yeah, and then the Medicine River Wildlife came and I gave them the owl in a box. She didn't scold me that, hey, maybe, maybe you shouldn't have grabbed this owl. Anyway, then they rehabilitated him and then they brought him back and then we released him. My son and I, our son Duncan, and I released him and he went back where we found him.

Speaker 1:

That's very cute.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, very cute.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, I'm just checking Instagram and live for any other questions and there isn't. So the next speaker Wednesday and Thursday of next week.

Speaker 3:

They're a couple of hours south of me, so I won't be freezing things off until midweek, but I've had to have my heater on cranked up to 25 degrees a couple of times a day to keep me from freezing. But I just wanted to tell Holly about the one time that my first cat in Sydney I just wanted to tell Holly about the one time that my first cat in Sydney ran away when I took her outside. Violet came to live with me and my sister in 2010. We were living in the townhouse, so there were two rows of townhouses and my townhouse was in the front, near the street, and behind it was like a pathway and a second set of townhouses. I'd taken Violet out to just walk in the trees and get some fresh air in our little front garden and a motorbike went by and the rider revved his engine to get up the hill and Violet clawed into me. I was holding her at that time because I was talking to the neighbours. Clawed into me. I was holding her at that time because I was talking to the neighbours. She clawed into me and leapt out of my arms and ran behind my townhouse and here I was running to try and catch her before she got over the fence that I couldn't get into Didn't catch her. So luckily she got in to the secured area behind my townhouse. Except she got into the secured area behind my townhouse, except she got into the neighbour's back courtyard. So I had to climb over a six-foot wall to get her out of the neighbour. She recognised that it was the back of our house, but she didn't recognise which was our courtyard, so she jumped into. She leapt up over this six-foot wall to get into the safety of our courtyard, except she jumped in the wrong one. The neighbours weren't home, so I had to climb over the wall between our courtyards. And then it was. And then I couldn't figure out how to get back into my courtyard because I'd forgotten to open my back gate. It was just a drama.

Speaker 3:

But Violet eventually got home and she never went out. She never wanted to go outside again after that. She just hated the sound of bikes. And then Charlie came along a year later. He hated the sound of bikes, so they were never allowed out in the front again. They would only ever go out in the back. But luckily or unluckily, we were renting that place and the landlord's real estate agent I don't know you, you've heard about, problem real estate agents in rentals didn't couldn't find the approval that we had to get for Violet and Charlie to come live with us, and so they said to us oh, we're evicting the cats. You guys can stay, but we're evicting the cats. And we said, okay, thank you very much. If the cats are going, so are we. So I think we've been playing for 10 years.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So we promptly moved house two weeks after that with Violet and Charlie into an apartment, and I never went out on the balcony because it was a third-floor apartment. I was too scared to let them out. So that was our escape story for Violet. Luckily she recognized how to get home.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead, Susan.

Speaker 2:

Yep, Hi Susan hey.

Speaker 6:

Hey guys, I joined late. I was wondering if paula could post maybe you did in the chat, but on your main twitter page the rescue that you're using to rescue the little bird, because I'm invested in that right now chris has it up in the nest too. Susan on twitter okay, great, that's just. It's such a great story and I hope that the little person makes it. We do too, and that's all I have to say and also glad that you're done with school. I was done on Wednesday, so good for you guys.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, susan. Big difference between teaching and doing review. And then of course we're high school teachers, so we have exam break, so the kids are writing exams but there's no curriculum to instruct.

Speaker 2:

Holly's story reminded me of this. This, where, in the middle of the night, the pantry door was open. Oh yeah, I don't know if ginger went bloop and then pulls latch down, or if jason got up for a midnight snack or if adam got up for a midnight snack, but the pantry was not closed. The pantry was not, and this story made it to text from Bunsen, because we woke up in the morning and on the floor in the pantry was ginger.

Speaker 1:

No, not in the pantry, like in the living room.

Speaker 2:

Oh, in the living room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So if the bag was in the pantry, and then Jason found it on the floor in the living room of her food, and so Ginger, like I was talking about her very sharp teeth, she can chew on the side of her bag and she has done that before. But there was this big gaping hole in her cat food bag and like the Ikea closer was still up at the top. It's clothespins, but it it's not. It's like a clip and that's what I used to close the bag. And then there's this big comical hole that obviously a dog's mouth has made bigger and all the food was gone out of her bag. And we're like which dog was it? The only dog we know who it wasn't is bernou, because he's crated at night, so he was not involved in the shenanigans. But by the size of Bunsen's number two, later we figured it was him and Ginger who got into the food.

Speaker 1:

They work together as a team.

Speaker 2:

They work together as a team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So Operation, beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was definitely easy to write a joke from, Paula. You have your hand up.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I have to say one more thing. I did put the link on my account page too. And, chris, I got a good story for you. I'll tell it really quick.

Speaker 4:

When I was probably in my early 20s, I was driving with my mom in February and we were going on the highway and we're going up the ramp and I see this little bird trying to take off and it had a really hard winter and he was running slapped on the ice and he kept doing it. I said to my mom I'm going to save it. So we ran, we drove all the way around the whole block again, went back up the ramp. I was in thigh-high snow in an embankment on the side of the highway grabbing a grebe and I got him with one shot with a coat and put it over him and he came up and he got my lip.

Speaker 4:

But, long story short, he had lost all his oils in his feathers and at the time we did have a rehab birdist on the vet that I used to go to and she rehabilitated him and she put him out in the ocean because that was the only water that wasn't frozen, because we had such a hard winter in Connecticut and because he was trying to take off and he couldn't do it and we rescued him. So I know what you feel and I was using my mom's white snow coat and she was putting a bird in my white snow coat but he didn't go, thank God. But it was funny. But I can almost relate with your talons on your owl because this little guy was. He was pretty feisty, but I think he was happy that I did save him because he wouldn't have made it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we were very glad to save the owl as well.

Speaker 1:

Before Bunsen, when we had Callan, I would take her for adventures too, just like the three dogs. Now Callan was the golden we had before all this, and we I was walking down through the creek and she spooked fawn out from its hiding hole and it was roaring around and Callan was happily chasing it and it it leapt into my arms, this little deer, and I scooped it up and I was like what am I going to do with this fawn? And I was like do I cart it all the way back home? And I was like nope, I just put it back where I thought it sprung out of the bushes and put Callan on the leash. And then we left it there and it wasn't there and Callan looked for it for weeks after. She was looking for the little fawn, but it was obviously just hiding. That's what they do, right? They're very quiet and they're very still and they don't have a lot of smell. Apparently that's what I read after that. So that's how they hide but Callan found it yeah, callan was like, hey, let's play run.

Speaker 2:

And you thought that. You thought, oh man, the is going to have a heart attack. Something, because it was running and then you just leapt in your arms and then Callan came right beside you going what do you have? What do you have? Let me play with the fawn. And you're like, no, I'm going to click you up and put the fawn back down.

Speaker 1:

Anything else, Chris.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you everybody for coming and spending your Saturday evening or early morning, sunday or whatever time it is for you and sharing with us, and we love hearing your stories and we love sharing our stories and we really appreciate just this community together and I think we pull for each other. It's just amazing, thank you.

Speaker 1:

That's right. All right, so we'll say goodbye and we'll see everybody next Saturday. And, of course, the folks who are part of the Paw Pack. All right, so we'll say goodbye and we'll see everybody next Saturday. And, of course, the folks who are part of the Paw Pack. That's our Patreon-like community. We will talk tomorrow on the Paw Pack chat. Okay, take care everybody.

Speaker 2:

Thanks everybody.