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Pet Chat September 21: From Obedience Training to Comic Con: Celebrating Pet Adventures and Milestones

• Jason Zackowski

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What if your furry friends could have their own Comic Con adventure? In this episode of Pet Chat, we start with a heartwarming tribute to Bernoulli, our intelligent and eager pup, who has just passed level one obedience training. Our journey with Bernoulli has been filled with humorous and chaotic moments, from scrambling for supplies to amusing social media reactions about his antics with our cat, Ginger. We also dive into the different training styles and techniques that have kept us on our toes while bringing out the best in our beloved pets.

Next, we celebrate the remarkable recovery of Bunsen, who is now enjoying off-leash walks and preparing for a special appearance at Edmonton Comic Con alongside Beaker. The excitement and detailed planning for the event, including crafting adorable costumes for our dogs, have left us buzzing with anticipation. We share beautiful stories from our recent visit to Wagon Play, where Bernoulli had a blast socializing with other dogs, including a lovable Newfoundland named Natasha. Additionally, we address community questions and comments from Instagram, providing updates and insights on our furry family members' adventures.

We also explore the fascinating topic of cloning pets and why we believe each pet's individuality is irreplaceable despite the temptation of having a do-over for certain moments. Bianca joins us with a touching story about dreaming of her late cocker spaniel, Tasha, sparking reflections on the deep emotional connections we maintain with our pets. Our lively discussion extends to canine behavior, interspecies interactions, and the escapades of our resident beaver, Norbert. Finally, we wrap up with a humorous mishap, a fond farewell, and a sneak peek into our Comic Con preparations, ensuring a blend of laughter, reflection, and excitement throughout the episode. Join us for this entertaining and heartwarming journey!

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Speaker 1:

Hello pet enthusiasts. My name is Jason Zakowski. I'm the dog dad of Bunsen, Beaker and Bernoulli the science dogs on social media.

Speaker 2:

My co-hostest with the mostest is hey there, I'm Chris Zakowski and I am the dog mom to bunsen, beaker, amber, newly the cat mom to ginger, and I have two turtles, carl and or say again do you like turtles?

Speaker 1:

I like turtles. Every week in pet chat, we multicast and bring together twitter spaces or x spaces, x video, facebook live and instagram live, so the whole community is here. Welcome to everybody who's tuning in from all over the place. We've got people watching on Instagram, we've got people watching on Facebook, we've got people watching on Twitter and we've got a whole host of people on the audio only platform spaces on X. So we're really glad to have you all here. So we have some people commenting on instagram. We'll get to comments in a second. We'll move to the next stage, where we talk about stories of the week. So, chris, you want to start with stories of the week or do you want me to?

Speaker 2:

this week bernoulli passed level one yes, he did.

Speaker 1:

Bernoulli passed level one. We're pretty proud of the little guy. Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

It was on Friday. Yeah, friday. Yeah, was it Thursday, though? What day was it that he?

Speaker 1:

passed Friday. I don't know, this week was a week. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2:

It was a week, thursday, I think. You had a workout after school and the test was at 545. Yeah, it was Thursday, because Bernoulli was already at play school, like he had been there all day, and so I got there at 530 and then he was in the yard with Char the owner and she's like I hope he goes pee.

Speaker 2:

And so we were waiting for him to go pee and we were just talking for a little bit and then you had your workout and then you had to come, but because it was such a week, I had nothing. I had no bed, I had no treats, I had like nothing. So prior to getting to Waggles, I stopped at our favorite store the bone in the biscuit and I picked up like a little blanket, I picked up some treats and just and a. I picked up a chew for him because, like, sometimes they rest on the mat. Anyway, so I was there. Then you're like where's all this stuff coming from? What is all this stuff? It was as if by magic. He had all this stuff and it was really good. It was like we were both. I think Shard could tell that we were wound up from our day, cause when you go and teaching is nonstop pop, I tell you. You get there, you hit the ground running and you go all day and you're high energy and it takes a while to calm down.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And we were flitting about and she said, oh, relax, it's okay. And so I was walking Bernoulli through the course so he could smell the different smells. And then also he had to do a reset, because that's usually the room that he gets to have fun in and play with his friends, and so he got to go through the squishy spot where they and yeah, it was super fun and you did the first course where it was like down, stay and focus and sit and auto sit and go through the squishy little area by your side heel, all that stuff, and he was doing so great.

Speaker 2:

And then I got to play the fun game, the treat game, where he uses his nose, it's under a container and then there's the leave it cones and it teaches boundaries. And both you and I make the same mistake, like when Bernoulli's not quite responding like to the down stay, like we both rush in and she's no, don't rush in, just. And so we're going to work on that skill yeah, absolutely, but he passed because he loves food and he loves being good yeah unless it's it's ginger.

Speaker 1:

I've said this before yeah, so many like probably 60 people commented when we posted. I posted a little picture of his certificate and we're, of course, very proud.

Speaker 5:

But, like probably 60 people commented oh, it looks like not mauling the cat wasn't in level one obedience, and I was like okay, yeah, I see what you did there.

Speaker 1:

That's quite funny. Good job, yeah. And of course, what's really funny is like when you look at sometimes how Bernoulli has that dopey smile on his face. He looks like there's not a lot going on in his brain. He's actually very smart, like he's surprisingly intelligent and he picks up things very quickly and he wants to do right Like he really wants to do right and when and he's food motivated, so of course that makes a dog pretty easy to train. When you got all those three things going for you.

Speaker 2:

So then Char was like okay, do you have your clicker and we don't use a clicker? Our marker is yes, your clicker and we don't use a clicker. Our marker is yes, yeah, it's a different thing. Yeah. And then we shared the really funny story about the mob museum in las vegas, where we went through a simulation and like it. Anyway, that's a story for a different day, but it was super funny because, like when okay, when you click, you treat yes and when we went with bunsen I was like so clicky, happy clicker, happy click.

Speaker 2:

So I was like having to pump out all the treats, yeah, I can't do it. I can't walk and have the dog walk and have him do the figure eight and all that stuff and click and treat, and I can't I have, it's too much, it's too much for my brain, but it's. You're good at it, jason, because you can play video games and you can click all these buttons without even looking. You play the piano, you type without looking. You amaze me, you like, amaze me so much.

Speaker 1:

I have some skills, but I'm super deficient at other things. So no, you have zero deficiencies.

Speaker 2:

You are amazing all the time. And you can guys, he can play the piano. It's so great. And then you also can type without looking at the keys. I just I marvel at that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I freak kids out, but most people should be able to type without looking at the keys. But thank you, miva Spieken. Yeah, but I freak my students beacon. I freak my students out because I can be like typing up an email and like talking to them about chemistry and they're like what, how do you do that? And I think it's just because I practice typing so much with those typing games.

Speaker 2:

Right, there's maybe typing video games yep and you can click and treat and it works me. I'm just like pumping out, like that's why the dogs are like oh, click and treat, that's probably why they like you best is you give them all the treats I do. But I give them treats for when they're doing the right thing. But I, they do the right thing a lot. So I click, I yes and treat, I mark it and treat so that's so that happened with bernoulli that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

That's the bernoulli bunsen help. Bunsen's update. I've called twice now to cedarwood to see if the biopsy results are in and a vet got back to me yesterday and they're quite frustrated they don't have the results. So people, we've been waiting I know you guys have been waiting. We get comments every day hey, have you got biopsy results yet? And no, and imagine how antsy you folks are and imagine how antsy we are and Bunsen's our guy. So we're a little frustrated. We're not frustrated at Cedarwood. They can't speed it up, right, they can't speed up the test results, but they're a little frustrated.

Speaker 1:

So they're putting the screws to the labs to see what's going on. So we'll find out. They're thinking next week sometime. So they're that's when they figure what's going to happen. They couldn't give me any other details. I'm like is that because it's so weird? Is that because it might be bad? Is that because it's low priority? And they're like we don't know. So we know as much as we did after Bunsen surgery on August 16th as we do today about what the growth was. So it's been a month right. So I think it's time for us to get those results, even though it probably didn't get there till sometime in the mid 20, like 24th or 25th August.

Speaker 2:

We're antsy. No, it would have got there sooner.

Speaker 1:

Go for 24th or 25th august. We're antsy. We would have got there sooner. We're over answers. Yeah, we're antsy, so we want to know too. We'll let everybody know when we know.

Speaker 2:

We'll be transparent but I keep telling every day bunsen like you're such a good boy, you're growing your hair back. Because he is growing his hair back on his tummy. He almost doesn't need the tom pay. That was from text from bunsen.

Speaker 1:

That was so funny that was, but also I tell him what that was. A good one too. I had a couple good singers.

Speaker 2:

They're so good. This week. I thought they were hilarious, but every day I'm like good job, bunsen. You're growing your head back and it makes jason insane that's my favorite.

Speaker 1:

I think he is. I think he is growing, not growing his head back, but his muscle atrophy is like his muscles are regaining their size in places.

Speaker 2:

In places, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

He's not noticeably like before. When you take a picture of him, one of his face was noticeably atrophied and now you'd be hard pressed to tell, Like you'd be really hard pressed to tell in photos.

Speaker 2:

He's doing a good job. He's growing himself back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that brings us to Bunsen's recovery. Chris, he's doing great. He's on off leash walks, he's doing amazing.

Speaker 2:

And okay, just a second. So Jason's, let's go for a walk. And I'm like, okay, and I've been the fun police, I've been the walk police. No, we've got to be careful, we've got to go around the front field only like it needs to be calm, cool and collected. He's, and then jason's have taken him up to the top of the hill and back so we could do that. And like, yep, let's do that. So then we go and we're walking and he, jason, looks at me. He's wow, you're brave. And I said what do you mean? He said I didn't take bunsen off leash. He was on leash with me while we went on this walk. Meanwhile, like he's just glued to my side off leash and I'm like, hey, hey, cause, like I, that's information I should have maybe known, but I just trusted that he would be a good boy and of course he is.

Speaker 1:

He's a very good boy. Yeah, I met. Now he's off leash, thanks to you. Yeah, so he's getting stronger.

Speaker 1:

And we made the decision because it was touching, it was a game time, game day decision to go to the Edmonton Comic Con with Bunsen and Beaker because way before, like months before, they wanted us back as celebrity guests, like having Bunsen and Beaker at the Edmonton Comic Con as guests. And we told them like, right after Bunsen surgery, okay, things are not good, we don't even know what's going to happen to him. Can we get back to you in a week about this? I just give you a heads up. And then, like he survived a surgery and we're like, okay, we don't know how his recovery is going to be.

Speaker 1:

And they were totally fine with literally waiting until a couple days before the comic-con to let have our decision and I and bunsen's doing well enough and he's totally fine enough to go for our take pictures for about 45 minutes. So that'll be really fun next sunday. So he's, bunsen and beaker are on the red carpet, which is so surreal gonna be taking photos with people and I've been working on their costumes today. It's very cute. We don't have quite have beakers ready, but bunsen's is pretty much done and it's adorable. I think so I think, so too.

Speaker 1:

yeah, that's the news. That's the news there. No, no news about beaker. She's just our good, steady girl. She's just a. She's just a good dog, she's just our I don't know what to say she's just steady, she's yeah, oh, bernoulli can get up on the couch now easily and he gets up there and sleeps next to her and she is just so forlorn. She's like oh, great, icky baby Bernoulli germs. And this like how Jim in the office looks to the camera. She does that. She looks to me like that, with the dead panned eyes. She's like I can't believe I have to share the couch with this thing. And he's just like he doesn't know it's couch wars.

Speaker 1:

He's just happy to be there and he loves beaker, so he's just trying to, you know, have some time with the dog, she's just like you baby.

Speaker 2:

So we went to wagon play today. Okay Well, do you want me to share, like there's, more stuff that happened this week?

Speaker 1:

We're about half an hour in, so if you want to talk about wagon play, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

And then we'll move to community sharing. Chris, okay, we went to wagon play, had a great time at the end, no, there was a ton of dogs there today all of his little friends, and he gets along with everybody. And there were such cute other dogs there and it was great to talk to the dog owners and I saw a friend of mine there and her husband and that was great. They got a new dog. She's about two.

Speaker 2:

They got her when she was a puppy and then it just was really nice for Bernoulli to be able to be himself and swim a little bit.

Speaker 1:

He went in the water with his PFD on. Yeah, his little shark, pfd yeah. And guess what dog came today? Natasha the new fee. Oh, I love her so much, she's so big she makes bunsen look tiny. She's huge, gorgeous dog. It's a. That's a lot of dog, though. Yeah, I was like I would love a newfie, but that is a lot of dog. To make bunsen look small, all right, should we move to uh, sharing and questions from the community? Yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

So, chris read the ground rules. We're going to bring up folks you want, all right.

Speaker 1:

Should we move to sharing and questions from the community? Yep, okay, all right. So, chris, read the ground rules. We're going to bring up folks you want to bring up folks on audio, and then I'll read out some questions from Instagram and then we'll get to the lives.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I'm bringing up Jamie.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I'm just going to go back through Instagram real quick, chris, and we'll honor Instagram and then we'll go to Jamie. Does that sound okay?

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So we got some people shouting out where they're from Philadelphia and from Boston and St Albert on Instagram. So hello, thanks for tuning in St Albert, alberta. Yes 12 is asking is Ginger still getting dragged around? No, not dragged around, but definitely the licking can turn into nipping wait till you see the video jay, we have to stop him from doing that.

Speaker 1:

That's he's got us. We'll make sure he doesn't do that very often. And then, uh, okay, blah, blah. Some people just putting in little comments about kahoot. Somebody thinks that ginger loves bernlli, and we don't know. It's super weird their relationship because Ginger jumped on Bernoulli's crate when he was going to go to sleep. Like what the heck? She doesn't need to be there, she just comes to see him too, and when he's not around she meows for him. And then Southern Girl at Living my World says I think she thinks it's funny to get him in trouble, maybe.

Speaker 2:

Such a cat thing to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then there's a lot of comments and people joined from Instagram. Please leave the name of the online dog food business. Oh, okay, I'm sorry, I'll put that back on the Chiron. So that somebody was asking about Bark and Beyonds. So I'll put that back on the Chiron. That somebody was asking about Bark and Beyonds. So I'll put that back on the Chiron. So there you go. Okay, I think we can go to Jamie.

Speaker 2:

Hi Jamie.

Speaker 3:

How are you doing? We're good, hello. Hey, it has been so long since I've been around on a Sunday morning here in Australia. Yeah Well, thank you. Oh, thank you, that's nice.

Speaker 5:

I had a.

Speaker 3:

What did I do? I don't know. I flew to Brisbane for a conference stupid o'clock flight and things like that. Yes, anyway, the dogs are doing well At the moment. River is lying on the dog bed chewing happily on a rib bone massive beef rib bone happily on a rib bone massive beef rib bone and I think Rosie's jaws are tired, so she's finally fallen asleep, and Jenna is, I think, up in the dirt, because the dirt is her favourite place up under the house, and she fills up with dirt and then comes and shakes on you, which is so helpful.

Speaker 1:

Not so much.

Speaker 3:

No, and you talk about Shedmageddon with Bunsen. She snows and you just get these little golden hairs everywhere and she walks through the house and it's just this cloud of snow behind her and it's every day and it's just a normal mess that we have. But everybody's doing fine and Rosie's been getting lots of runs. But what we did have the during the week took River for a run and a dog was following us down the street. I was like, okay, this is a bit strange. Rouse on the dog, say go home, dog doesn't't do anything and of course it's dark so I can't really see what's going on. Okay, righto. And then Friday morning I took Rosie for a run and the same dog was following us. Okay, go home. Nothing happened. Took all three dogs for a walk on Friday afternoon and the dog comes out and follows us and it's not a dog, it's a dingo.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my goodness, it was a dingo.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, following us down the street. And this dingo obviously lives in the street and plays with other dogs. So when we came home, rosie and I run yesterday morning, saturday morning, walked past one yard and the dingo and the golden retriever doing circle work in the front yard, chasing each other and the dog next door at the fence barking saying I want to play too. The dog next door is at the fence barking saying I want to play too. So obviously this dingo is just curious and friendly and wants to play.

Speaker 1:

Wow, they look more like dogs than coyotes, though. Is that correct?

Speaker 3:

I think so, yes, yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because if you look at like a coyote prowling around, you'd be like oh, that's clearly not a dog. Oh, these, these, sorry, I was just. I was just gonna say, like from what I remember, what a dingo looks like. It doesn't necessarily look. They have pointy up ears, right, they have pointy up.

Speaker 3:

yes, they do okay, mostly, yes, yeah, oh, so it followed us so closely the other day that I got photos of it, so I'll put a picture in the chat.

Speaker 1:

Genetically, they are not dogs, so yes, okay, can they be dangerous to people?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, absolutely Okay, absolutely. Like many other animals, if they get habituated to people, they'll come up too close, and they have. On Cagari, which is used to be called fraser island, which is down near brisbane, there are there's a large population of dingoes on the island and they people get in trouble all the time from feeding them and because they feed them, the dingoes will come in into camps and things like this, and it's not good for the dingoes or for the people.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, but I've put the photo in the chat and you can see it you know I can do a fun thing, chris, what I can do if it's in the chat, I can share the screen with the live people so they can see what Jamie's talking about here.

Speaker 2:

So it's, and Jamie Jenna had a birthday last month.

Speaker 3:

Oh yes, jenna had her birthday, she was 11 and River turned five. So two August babies.

Speaker 1:

Yes, there I've got. If you're on live, I'm sharing jamie's picture of the dingo and it looks like a mixed breed. It's not as sketchy as coyotes in canada.

Speaker 3:

Look like a coyote looks pretty sketchy yeah, so they'll be. Looks like that's a boy. He'll be probably 17 kilos if that. Yeah, they're very fine built animals yeah.

Speaker 1:

And of course, australia is so hot they're not as fuzzy as coyotes and wolves. They're kind of short?

Speaker 3:

Oh, we'll see. Yeah, they are short breeds. Yeah, short haired breeds, but you get ones that live in the alpine areas as well okay so they're fuzzier I love when you come on, because it's like a.

Speaker 1:

It's a snapshot into a completely different world that chris and I have no concept of. Like you were out for a run and a dingo was following you and that sounds like something from a cartoon to me. So I'm glad you're okay, but it makes for a really good story.

Speaker 3:

It's pretty. It's not a usual thing to have a dingo following me down the street. That's for sure, but yeah, it's just. This boy seems to be curious about things and over the last couple of months we've noticed things like when my husband's doing yard work around the neighborhood, he's finding our dog's toys in a neighbor's yard. It's like our dogs are inside the yard. How did their toys get over there? Weird, and it's possibly that this dingo is taking toys for walks. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2:

Very possible.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thank you very much for the chat and I'll let somebody else have a go.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, Jamie.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, Jamie. At least the dingo's kind to bring the toy back. It's not like all your toys are being taken from your yard and then gone forever. He's just giving them to the neighbor.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, from your yard and then gone forever. He's just giving them to the neighbor. Yeah, all right, come on up to speak on audio if you'd like to share or have a question for us. Chris, I'm going to go through the comments on twitter live and facebook live if that's okay, so we're gonna, so I can put those up in the jumbotron. Kevin says maybe the lab has been taken over by alien life forms. I'm not sure. Is that probably in reference to bunsen's weird growth being sent? I think so. That was from back at the start. Um, thank you this. Uh, thinking she, in memory of scruff, laughed so hard at the joke, especially since my dad's name is ron. Uh, I appreciate that. And then this one's good. So nice to see bunsen out and about such a beautiful post. Thank you, madison. Um, and this one says love bernoulli when he has that goober smile makes me laugh. And then there's some comments about clicker training. I've never been able to click and treat at the same time.

Speaker 1:

Treat, treats work best for us too I tell you it's a art and then there's so I just mark it with yes and then there's a really good question, actually from ariana, and if you'd like to weigh in on this type into the chat, you should be able to see it pop up on instagram and of course, I comment or come up to talk about. Ariana asks would you clone your dog? Dna love is not dna, as love is not a cloning service. They just hold the dna inside a locket or a pendant or a a vial. So would you clone your dog? Would you clone your dog? I would say no. I think I would say no. I think I would say no.

Speaker 1:

I think even if you were to clone Bunsen, beaker or Bernoulli and we love them so much they wouldn't be the same because their life experiences would be different. Their DNA may be the same, but there's a lot of nature nurture with mammalians as they grow and they learn and they develop. So while they may be genetically the same, I don't think I would clone my dog. Chris, what about you?

Speaker 1:

no, but we could have a do-over without bunsen breaking his toe you could have, but you could always wish for do-overs with anything like. I wish we had beaker as a puppy when it wasn't covet, right, because that affected her socialization. For a little bit We've been.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just get what you get and roll with the punches, and like our hearts were like. Even though Bernoulli has very similar markings to Bunsen and we were worried, though is he going to be too much like Bunsen or are we going to think he's like Bunsen? He's got a totally different personality. He's so different, so different, holy man. He is gonna think he's like bunsen. He's got a totally different personality. So different, holy man he is he bernoulli is way different.

Speaker 2:

Bernoulli is his own little man his own little man, that's for sure. And and then you get to enjoy those moments with a new puppy, with their personality and their spin on it. Yeah, um, or a dog, um, that's what I think yeah, that's a really good question, ariana.

Speaker 1:

I know there's a good, good question if you've got, if you've got a little bit of extra dough, there are companies that will clone your pet. I know, I talked to my students about that. They can. I don't know, I don't know how, how safe that is for the animal, but it's a thing. Okay, one more, chris, could you bring up a speaker on spaces? And then I'll get to the next question. I don't know how safe that is for the animal, but it's a thing. Okay, one more, chris, could you bring?

Speaker 2:

up a speaker on spaces, and then I'll get to the next question oh, got some really good comments.

Speaker 1:

Okay, kelly, sapphire K39 says what's your theme this year for costumes at Comic-Con? So the theme for all of comic-con. And when I met with the, our handler, our marketing person, to get bunsen and beaker, the theme is fantasy. So the costumes are related to that and I don't want to spoil anything yet I'm very bad oh, that was close.

Speaker 2:

That was close. I thought you were gonna tell everybody. I'm very bad, ellie. You tell everybody.

Speaker 1:

I'm very bad.

Speaker 2:

Kelly, you almost caught him.

Speaker 1:

I'm very bad at keeping secrets. Okay, so we'll go to. I think is Bianca up.

Speaker 2:

Bianca.

Speaker 1:

Okay, go ahead Bianca.

Speaker 5:

Hi there, can you hear me?

Speaker 1:

Yep, you betcha Yep.

Speaker 5:

I was just thinking about that cloning question because a weird thing happened to me this morning. That cloning question because a weird thing happened to me this morning. Before I had my two aussie miscreants, a long time ago, I used to have two black cocker spaniels and one of them was named tasha. And this morning I had a really vivid dream that I was in the park and it was mysteriously fenced off and when I opened it up there were all these cocker spaniels in there and one of them was Tasha, and so I had a bit of a reunion with her and she followed me home and met Liffey and and everything. And it was just really vivid and really like I woke up really happy having seen her, even though she died in 2006. And then I woke up this morning after it and I realised today's the 15th of September and that was her birthday.

Speaker 4:

Oh.

Speaker 5:

So it got me thinking about things like having her still around and things, and I wouldn't want to clone her, like I wouldn't. That was a time in my life. It was a special time and I don't think you could recreate that no, I agree with you.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you 100 percent. Yeah, and it's amazing how we dream of our pets too. Like after we lost kellen, I dreamt about her like nightly, every night. I dreamt about her, think about her all the time.

Speaker 5:

But I have to be honest, I haven't dreamt about her in many years the same with me, like with tasha and kira and even with Pippi, who I lost a few years ago. I'll have the occasional dream, and I haven't had one about Tasha for a long time, but it's just weird that today is her birthday and I've had one, so it's got me today, I love that.

Speaker 5:

That's an awesome story hits you right in the heart yeah, and I like to think she's come to meet Liffey and just make sure that I'm being looked after. That's how I see it making sure you're okay yeah, anyway, that's all I wanted to say awesome.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, bianca. We got a comment I had a dream.

Speaker 2:

I had a dream about linson did you yeah, last night you picked him up under the armpits and I said, don't pick him up under the armpits, and then his whole incision split and there was like it was terrible, I would not do that to him I would not do that I know, but I'm like such a like fun police, like I want to keep him so protected, and then you're like it's gonna be fine and you pick them up and then the tummy split.

Speaker 2:

It was a nightmare no but not about then it was fine. Because then you drive around and you're looking for the vet and like all the shenanigans that happen, like you think that you can go from point A to point B in your dream but you don't, because then the car breaks down and then all this other stuff that comes in your path.

Speaker 1:

But that is a convoluted dream, Chris I'm, but I'm glad I know, I'm just working through some stuff.

Speaker 2:

I'm working through some stuff.

Speaker 1:

We have had many comments for me to pick up Bunsen, to compare his size to me picking up Bernoulli, and I've had to tell people that no, we're not picking up Bunsen. He has an incision on his belly that we don't want to mess with for many months.

Speaker 2:

No, because in my dream it was horrific. Okay, Not good.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

There's a little bit of foreshadowing. No, don't do it.

Speaker 1:

On the vein of cloning dogs.

Speaker 2:

This is a really good comment from how would you say that, chris, danielle, about cloning.

Speaker 1:

No, I've owned six dogs over the last 30 years and each one was unique and different. That's the best part of getting a puppy or a new dog is learning who they are. Yeah, they all have added to my life and changed me in different ways, because I've learned something about myself from each. That's that summed up better than what I said. So that's a better answer than what I gave. Very good, I don't know if, jamie, if you're still here, there's a question from Facebook. Do domesticated dogs befriend dingoes? Is that common?

Speaker 3:

I don't think so, okay. Apart from anything else, there are stories of like packs of dingoes coming into yards and taking out little dogs and see they tend to be a bit like wolves. They're a family group of animals and they will hunt in packs, but because they're so much smaller, they're not normally alone and playing with other dogs. It's pretty unusual, okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's good. It would be very weird for a coyote to play with a dog. I'm sure it's happened somewhere. I'm sure somebody has a story or foxes. That's common too. There's some oddball foxes that have been that been befriended a dog and becomes its friend. I know that's true. Not so sure about the coyote thing though.

Speaker 3:

So how big is a coyote?

Speaker 1:

Sounds like how much did you say a dingo was?

Speaker 3:

Probably like under 20 kilos. So 15 to 20 kilos max.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that sounds about what a coyote is like. A coyote is around. Yeah, coyote is around 30 pounds, but the depending on where you are in North America. The coyotes on the East coast of Canada and the United States have interbred with domestic dogs and even wolves and they're quite a bit bigger. They're pushing 50 pounds, okay.

Speaker 3:

So there's been a lot of genetic testing done on dingoes in recent years and everybody's saying, oh no, it's a crossbreed with a domestic dog and it's 90% of them are pure dingo yeah, interesting there's not a lot of crossbreeds yeah, interesting, they look like the crossbreed.

Speaker 1:

I can see why people would say that, but of course the, the dna tool, would be more accurate than your eyeballs oh, absolutely, and they come in because they come in a range of colors too.

Speaker 3:

So you'll get black ones and white ones and brown with black sort of shoulders and things like that. So you can't go by color either.

Speaker 1:

We have some comments on Instagram from folks that do live on the East Coast and they're saying the coyotes there are big, like 50 to 60 pounds. So yeah, that's cool, and there's some giant ones out here like the mountain coyotes. They can push around 50 pounds. I don't know how big the one was. That, of course, is the very big story where Bunsen saved Beaker's life from it. It was bigger than Beaker. It was definitely bigger than Beaker, and she was like a teenager at that time, or maybe it wasn't. My brain seemed to think it was much bigger, but it all happened very fast. Yeah, okay, chris, you're muted. You're still muted. Nobody can hear you.

Speaker 2:

I unmuted myself, and then I muted myself. It was a mute, unmute, mute.

Speaker 1:

It's all good.

Speaker 2:

That's probably for the best, because I was just making hand gestures, jason yes would you like to tell us about norbert and some latest developments about norbert? Oh, are people asking no, I just made it up. Norbert is our resident beaver. Norbert moved in yes yeah, and was named by the internet. For anybody who's new, we actually do have a beaver who came downstream and said this is a great creek we're so happy he came to our land.

Speaker 2:

It was so bizarre. But then we were like this is weird, all this wood is going and the speaker sticks are going somewhere. What is happening? Yeah, and then we got three. Well, one trail cam, which led to two trail cams because you got a girl math deal on two.

Speaker 1:

So now we have three and I just got another deal, so we now we're gonna have four trail cams yes, two of them are solar powered, which I really like, so you don't have to like constantly be changing the batteries.

Speaker 1:

They're a little bit more money but much better for the environment because we I got it on sale, so it's like the money I save yeah, so I have new footage of norbert not from today, which is weird, because the trail camera was pointing directly at one of the new trees that he knocked over and the tree was gone today and I was like, oh, we're gonna get footage of him chopping it apart. We have footage of him coming into view and the next shot is no tree there anymore. So, thanks trail cam. It missed 100% of the action. It's like tree and then a little bit of a beaver head, and then the next is no tree, nothing's there but wood shavings. And I was like, great, thanks, stupid trail cam, and that was one of the good trail cams too.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, when did you put it?

Speaker 1:

What, oh, I took. So he's working on his den and I think it's because he's a little stressed or she is a little stressed. It has been so incredibly dry like very little rain for all of august and most of september that the creek has it's gone down to levels that is like historic lows. Even with norbert's dam, most of his places are now dry, so there's a bit back from one of the dams and then there's a bit back from one of the dams, so maybe he's oh no, I gotta build my den bigger or something.

Speaker 1:

So he knocked down a bunch of trees and is probably saving the branches for food for the winter and I didn't get any footage from that. So I took the camera off the tree and I just I put it down into the den so we might lose that trail cam. I'm sacrificing a trail cam for maybe like interesting norbert footage because it's inside his den and he might take it and huck it out into the creek or something. Because he came real close to messing with the trail cam that one time. Do you remember that he like came up to it and we thought he was going to bite it or throw it away or something, and but he just got real close and whoa, and then he ran away from it. So I don't know.

Speaker 2:

But real close and whoa, and then he ran away from it.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know, but now he's used to having us like spy on him. Yeah, okay, and like to be fair. It's not blocking him going into the den, it's just off to the side of the den, like I didn't put it in his house and I didn't block his home. It's just off to the side. So I don't know, I think that's okay. He's probably going to yeet it into the creek. He's stupid humans, chuck.

Speaker 2:

I can see it. I can see it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I remember the night after Beaker she looked at the his den, where what we thought was his den, and she was like I'm going to take a few sticks out of there. And so she like took a, and then the very next night he's slapping mud up on the side of it, yeah, and putting sticks back, like that damn dog, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It was very funny yeah.

Speaker 2:

We're just tonifying the beaver, but it looked like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and he was like he was working for two hours straight like going back and forth, like shoving extra, like angrily, like shoving extra, like angrily, like shoving extra dirt, like muddy dirt and like rocks and like a giant log. So it's like I'm gonna make this so good.

Speaker 1:

you're never gonna mess with me, my damn, anyways that's a good norbert voice, no we have a norbert voice in the audiobook actually, we sure do which is a good segue. We should probably start our wrap up. Hey, we're getting close to the top. Yeah, last call for speakers or questions, and then Chris and I are going to do some wrap up. How did he get back there? Oh my God, I purposely blocked that off and somehow he pushed his way through.

Speaker 2:

Yes, because it does not matter. You goober like bunsen bunsen is such a good boy you're like, oh, I don't want you to go in this area. And you block it off, like with something flimsy and bunsen's, oh, I guess I can't go there. I'll just go lay down over here because I'm such a good boy yeah, he respects boundaries. For newly, on the other hand, is like oh, you don't want me to go there, I'm gonna find a way to go there I'm just gonna shove a giant.

Speaker 1:

Oh, he just shoved the chair through so he wanted to go through. He shoved the chair sideways. Okay, all right, so segue first off. Everybody who's ordered a calendar should be receiving it, probably this week at the latest. Sometime later this week. I want to, chris, and I want to thank everybody who purchased a calendar to donate. We were able to find 40 like there was a 40 people 42 I think people that requested a calendar. They were just in a time in their life they couldn't afford one. They really wanted a bunsen, beaker and bernoulli calendar. The donors matched the people that needed it and then you and I, chris, we covered any of the postage unders and we sent them all away. So thank you so much to everybody who donated a calendar. That was very kind of you.

Speaker 1:

At the end of this month, we will have our text from Bunsen volume three ready for pre-sale and we're really excited about that. Chris and I worked all July on the book and I've been working on and off throughout August and September on the audio book. You recorded some of your stuff. Today we got about 25% of your voice lines done and yeah, so when the 30th rolls around, we're going to have text from Bunsen volume three ready to go. There'll be fun bundles. You can get the print book or you can get the just the audio book. It's the cheapest option. You can get a bundle which has all three.

Speaker 1:

So we're just, we're very excited for that and it's going to be a presale. So the price is going to be the best during the presale, is going to be the best during the pre-sale. And just be careful, because our last pre-sale was so popular we sold out. Like our calendars are gone, we have no more calendars because the pre-sale was so popular. So just a heads up at the end of this month, text from Bunsen Volume 3 is coming and we'd love your support because that's we do. I do Text from Bunsen jokes every week and we just put them into this book. That's we do. I do text from bunsen jokes every week and we just put them into this book and I think it's going to be great that's a bad.

Speaker 1:

There's some new jokes too. Yes, there's lots of new jokes, yeah, jokes nobody's seen before, jokes that the subscribers only got, so yeah yeah, and then we also have vignettes, so we talk about um.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to give it away, but there's more to it than just the text from Bunsen itself.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Yeah, yeah, and I played it last week, but I think I have it on my soundboard. The audio book is hours long I think it's going to be like two and a half hours and every joke is voiced, but voiced with the characters from text from Bunsen. So you're a character, I'm a character, bunsen. Obviously he's the main character, beaker, ginger, norbert Buster, and at the end of the book, guess who shows up? Bernoulli?

Speaker 2:

Bernoulli, yeah, so Bernoulli is at the very end of the book. Here's a little taste of one of the book, guess who shows up?

Speaker 1:

Bernoulli Bernoulli, yeah, so Bernoulli's at the very end of the book. Here's a little taste of one of the audios. It's Bunsen talking to Ginger. I played it last week, but I love the Ginger voice so much I'm not a fan of you using beaks and I to get outside.

Speaker 4:

The chaos of dogs going inside is the perfect diversion for me. To slip outside. You're not allowed outside. It's dangerous. I am the danger. You weigh seven pounds. Do you fear me? Yes, actually a lot. Then all the creatures will cower in despair as I approach. Okay, what would you do against a coyote? It takes 247 balloons to do against a coyote. It takes 247 balloons to lift a standard coyote. Why do you know?

Speaker 1:

that I love the ginger voice so much. Hey, thanks for coming to pet chat. Do you know how many people tuned in today? Chris? This is bananas 2000 more what 4,000? No, not 4,000. If my numbers are correct, it looks about 2,400 people have tuned in across all social media platforms, so that's amazing.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing.

Speaker 1:

So thank you to everybody who tuned in for a second and you're like whoa, this isn't for me and you pop back out again. You're still a number on our metrics. And for everybody else who stayed and listened, thanks for coming to pet you, bernoulli just I was gonna say Bernoulli knocked over my background.

Speaker 2:

Bernoulli I know, chris, you're gonna know it, Chris, you're gonna have to. It looks like you're having an earthquake in there. It was like shaking and I'm like, oh no, it's an earthquake. No, you can close the show now. I don't even know where I was.

Speaker 1:

I just had the thing fall on my face. How did you not see it coming? I was focusing on whatever I was saying. Bernoulli, stop, chris, you're going to have to go. Thank, bernoulli, stop, chris, you're going to have to go.

Speaker 2:

Thank you everybody for coming. We've had a great chat with you here today at Pet Chat. Again, there's no Pet Chat next week because we will be having fun at the Comic Con, enjoying ourselves as a family. Adam and Annalise will be coming and sharing that joy with us. Listen to the podcast. It's a great time and I think that's all we say, jay.

Speaker 1:

Did you?

Speaker 2:

take your earphones off.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just pretending to eat.

Speaker 2:

Don't do that. That's topical in the news. Don't do that.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

That's terrible. That's terrible.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we'll see everybody in a couple weeks.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that.