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The Science Pawdcast breaks down the latest science happening in the human world AND the pet world.
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Pet Chat May 18th: Celebrating the Bond and Pet Recovery
Imagine the sigh of relief when the vet gives your furry best friend a pass on surgery. That's the story we kick off with, as Bunsen's limp thankfully points away from the operating table and towards innovative recovery options. We weave through tales of vet visits, laugh about Bunsen's gym-honed physique, and share the charm of our local fair, where even the quirkiest moments are wrapped in joy. It's a heartfelt reflection on the ups and downs of caring for our four-legged companions, complete with a dive into the possibilities offered by cutting-edge 3D printed braces.
Our conversation turns to the colorful celebration of the Northern Hairy-Nosed Wombat Festival and the critical importance of conserving our precious ecosystem, drawing parallels between our beloved pets and their wild counterparts.
It's a chapter filled with personal anecdotes and a reminder of the interconnectedness of all creatures, big and small.
We wrap up this episode with a spotlight on the small victories and challenges that pepper the journey of pet ownership. From Barry's first birthday bash to the puppy shenanigans that keep us on our toes, we share the heartwarming and the hair-raising. We tackle behavioral hurdles and discuss the serious issue of pet overpopulation, underlining our collective responsibility as pet lovers. Our guests chime in with their stories, bringing a sense of community to our shared experiences and initiatives that aim to make a positive impact on the lives of our furry friends. Join us as we celebrate the unique bond between humans and animals, and the endless laughter (and sometimes chaos) they bring into our lives.
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Hello pet enthusiasts, Welcome to Pet Chat. My name is Jason Sikowsky. I'm the dog dad of Bunsen and Beaker the science dogs on social media. My co-hostess with the mostest is Hi there, I'm Chris Sikowsky.
Speaker 2:I am the dog mom to bunsen and beaker and the cat mom to ginger every week in pet chat we bring to you stories from around the world, stories about bunsen and beaker and an amazing place to gather as a fun community that shares and cares. This is pet chat. We're super happy to have you today. So at this point Chris and I are just going to give some updates and some stories about Bunsen and Beaker and then we'll bring in our live guests who are on the wings and anybody else that wants to share part of their stories about their pets. So I guess the big update is about Bunsen.
Speaker 2:Everybody was so kind and worried about his limp that he had a couple weeks ago and he's been on rest since then. The vet was worried that it was a torn cruciate, which is like the ACL in humans and it's a fairly involved surgery. But they're like I don't know if it's really torn. You never really know. So we always say, okay, give them rest and see what happens. And after a couple of days Bunsen's limp went away and then after about two or three days after that he was walking pretty much normally and so we still did. The whole two weeks he hasn't been for more than just going out to go pee and we, if he tries, to run around the house. We slow him down Because he still is a big guy that likes to have shenanigans. Yeah, there's a funny callback to.
Speaker 3:There's an amusement park, amusement traveling amusement company that comes to Red Deer every year and they have games and all the rides and things. And there's this one ride where the kids can go and they just go through an obstacle course and our eldest son, Duncan, loved it. He would go in and then he'd go through it and come out and go again and go again.
Speaker 3:But the Kearney kept saying walk don't run. And then eventually it became like part of a recording walk don't run. And so every time Bunsen runs we're like walk don't run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a call back to the little fair that comes to our town called the Westerner. That's a really good fair for kids. I'm not going to lie. There's no lineups, really. There's tons of rides for little kids. I can't imagine taking little kids to Disneyland now with how busy it is and you go on three rides a day, like that would. That's a good use of your entire day. But at the Wessoner you could go on three or three rides in six minutes. They're not as fabulous as Disneyland and they may smell like pee and smoke, cigarette smoke, but you don't have to wait as long for them, anyways.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a selling feature. Come to Red Deer, where we have the Westerner, where the rides may smell like pee and may smell like cigarette smoke, but you wait a very short time to be able to go on them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you win some, you lose some. Yeah, like risk reward going on. Anyways to me to get reward, yeah, okay for your olfactory glands yes, kristen.
Speaker 2:So, getting back to the story, we I took munson into the vet on thursday for his two-week checkup and the best news ever has happened they are almost certain. They're almost certain that he's healed, that it was a partial tear and he's on the mend and he won't require surgery. So the next stage is he is on one month of low activity, slowly building himself back up. Month of low activity slowly building himself back up. And, as luck may have it, I interviewed this company, this vet actually she's a doctor this company called Wimba and they make 3D printed braces.
Speaker 2:So it was suggested by the vet that we get a brace for Bunsen during this time and there's nothing in Red Deer that has dog braces, braces you'd have to go to Calgary or Edmonton. And the vet was like oof, you're going to be looking at a weight and they're probably going to have to make a like a cast of Bunsen's leg to make sure it's right. She's like you could get a cheap one from Amazon. Some people do that. And then I mentioned Wimba and then I showed her the little, the video and she's or the their website.
Speaker 2:So Wimba is going to be contacting our vet and then hopefully we're going to be moving forward in the next couple weeks to get a brace from for bunsen. So that's the good news on the front with bunsen. So you, he's been on walks again. He's not limping, I think he's fine. But of course we're going to follow the vets you know what the vet says and not just go from zero to hero and build back up his strength because he has been doing a whole lot of nothing for two weeks.
Speaker 3:So and it's been it shows. So even tonight, when I walked him around the front field where we're, uh, trying to keep him calm, he's picking up on smells and he's doing donuts and I'm like don't do donuts, donuts he's like I'm gonna do a donut he's just, he's cooped up, right, he, he just wants to rip around.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that's my update with Bunsen, because I was more on the Bunsen end of things because I was taking him to the vet. Oh, at the vet, here's something funny. They weighed him and he's 100 pounds right on the dot. He's a 100 pound dog and the vet was like doing a quick check over and she's like he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him and then she's like he's ripped because he's so muscly underneath all this fuss and Bunsen was like doesn't like the vet, so he didn't really care. The vet was saying nice things about his body, but I think we could all be a little more trim like Bunsen and maybe a little bit more muscly. I guess more weights for me at the gym, chris.
Speaker 3:Okay, but the other funny thing is there was a cat lady there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, cat, yeah, oh yeah. Do you want me to tell that story? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Bunsen, it's so funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause Bunsen likes all animals. He's very curious about most creatures, especially little things he loves. He's very curious about most creatures, especially little things. He loves little dogs, he loves puppies, he loves little cats. So he went over to see the cat and he's on leash so I wasn't letting him go over there. He just was starting to go over there and the cat was like in the carrier and the cat was like like making a meow sound, not a ginger sound.
Speaker 2:No, ginger goes meow yeah, and then the owner's list no, the cat doesn't like anybody. So poor cat and bunsen was like okay, whatever, it's like our cat, it doesn't really care about me okay, and then there's more I forget. I forget, chris, what?
Speaker 3:oh, it's okay, I'll tell it. The vet tech said okay, we're gonna need to wait for bunsen oh yeah okay, I'll finish it.
Speaker 2:I've just been talking a lot. But so the vet tech says we have to take a weight on bunsen. Every time we go in he gets weighed and because we've trained both him and beaker do this thing called pause up, you say pause up and he gets up on top of things. So I just pointed at the scales, like pause up, and he goes to do, and he goes over there and sits down and the cat lady's what the hell like she was just stunned. She was just stunned and I think just couldn't help herself and bunsen just sat there like a good boy while the vet tech checked it off and she patted him on the head. He's okay, job's done. I got weighed and then he hopped off of there. Okay. So that's my bunsen update over to you for shenanigans chris stories of the week, and then we'll go to the community so many shenanigans this week.
Speaker 3:Ginger is escape artist extraordinaire. She's going into the garage every single time. So you, we always have to block the door, yeah, when we're coming home and I'm like, oh, watch, watch out for the ghoul, cause we call her a ghoul. And today I brought Adam back from the Royals. There was a parade today in Caroline, the first parade of the season. I chaperoned that and Adam went to that. But as as we were going in, ginger got out. But then it was like a slow mo where I had her body and she was slinking and then she flipped. And then she flipped in my arms again and flipped in my arms again. It was like a triple flip Olympic, not letting the cat out because then she'll go and sit under the car to get her in. And I was really proud of myself. It was called the cat flip.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's your story the cat, the cat flip yeah, it's a great story okay, it's a great story. Yes, the cat flip I don't know.
Speaker 3:I've been walking bunsen in the front field and we have not seen any rabbits. When I walked bunsen and beaker in the front field, I did see a rabbit about two weeks ago when I was like, oh, I saw the rabbit, you did not beaker because they'll take you for a ride if you're not ready.
Speaker 2:Beaker, beaker wants to catch every rabbit so that was a good thing.
Speaker 3:And then what else?
Speaker 2:we got new photos of norbert just today.
Speaker 3:Yes, that was today yeah, new so we got three. We have three trail cams now. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three, three of them.
Speaker 3:Jason said that he was going to buy one, and then he came home with two.
Speaker 2:One was a good deal. I was using girl math.
Speaker 3:You were using girl math, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like the first trail cam was $25 off and then the second trail cam was normally $75, but they were selling it for 50. So I was like I saved 25 on the first one and 25 on the second one. So that makes the second one technically free. So that's why I got the second trail cam they got I girl math my way to a second camera.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Anyway. So now I haven't been out because I've been with Bunsen in the front field and Jason's been taking Beaker solo. But today he brought back footage and this trail cam might only take pictures. We're not sure, because there only was pictures, not video.
Speaker 2:I think I have to change the setting on it, but it does a good job. It's very sensitive, so that's what we like. We got some. I'll show you guys later at the end. I can actually share my screen and show the live viewers what they look like and I'll get them posted at some point. For everybody else who wasn't live.
Speaker 3:So that's exciting. So now we have more trail to be able to watch the beeper activity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right. So it's super rained over the last couple of days. Is it flooded down there more or?
Speaker 2:the water's pretty high. Yeah, I'd like to. I think I should send my drone out. I think we're in for a big storm all day tomorrow, so I'll send my drone out on monday to see what it looks like, because the drone shots are just spectacular from one year to the next how much it's changed and everything's greening up. So that's the other thing is, what the drone shots I had was like everything was still gross, um, but everything's turning green on the farm right now, like I had to mow all day, all evening yesterday, because the grass is starting to grow like crazy. So, yeah, all right, should we move to community sharing, chris?
Speaker 2:yes all right, so we'll bring up jamie's on with us live. So jamie's joining us live. And if you were on audio spaces and you'd like to share something going on with your pets or ask us a question, we would love for you to join the conversation, because that's what pet chat's all about. So request the mic. Chris will bring you up, we'll go to. We'll go to jamie first. Jamie, how you doing?
Speaker 8:yeah, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2:we're good.
Speaker 8:It's good to see you look, I've even got my banff t-shirt on you do is it a bear?
Speaker 3:what's? What is the the latest thing?
Speaker 8:the bear, yeah so this one gosh, this is from 2017, but yeah, it's the boss at Banff National Park. So, yes, it is a bear yeah did you see it, when you were there we saw lots of black bears, yeah, and we saw a grizzly in a park somewhere I can't remember the name of the park yeah, grizzlies aren't as common as black bears no, so this one was in.
Speaker 8:It was in behind a very large fence, but the black bears were just all over the joint. Yeah, as they do, because we went to. We spent a lot of time at waterton national park oh yeah, waterton's really nice yeah, and you know bears all over the joint down there and nearly got killed by some beer, some deer, that's, that's normal. So they tried to jump in the car. Oh, while we were driving home. Yeah, but I missed, which is nice. Okay, it's always nice when you miss the wildlife.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 8:Oh shush, rosie. So we've just come into our version of winter. So here's Rosie in her pink coat. She doesn't really need a coat because she's a border kelpie and she's got fur everywhere, but everybody else has got their coats on because, and so she feels like she's missing out. But River has no fur, so he absolutely needs his coat. And Jen is nearly 11, and so she needs a coat because she's you know, she's old and she has this big fur ruff around her coat and so she thinks she's wearing, wearing. She's some posh lady wearing her fur coat what does the?
Speaker 2:what temperature does it get down to? At night celsius, like in your winter, jamie?
Speaker 8:at the moment yeah so yeah, still autumn for us.
Speaker 2:13 this morning, okay, but in your winter. But in your winter does it get below 10?
Speaker 8:Oh yeah, so for here probably down to five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's cold, that's chilly for a dog, yeah.
Speaker 9:That's chilly for a person.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's like Speedo weather for Canadians.
Speaker 8:So I did my 10K run this morning and I swam in the creek and the creek was warm compared to the air temperature outside, but there was dragon breath happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 8:I'm sitting out on the veranda and that's our front yard and I don't know if you can hear it, but there is no, he's not making the noise at the moment. So there's a male bowerbird over in the garden who's? He'll be hissing and carrying on and that's part of his mating ritual, and he's over there in his bower and the bowerbirds built these little, these stick corridors, and decorate it with snail shells and anything else they can steal from your house, like toothbrushes and pens and pegs and stuff like that, and essentially it's his bachelor pad and he's just going. Hey, girls, here I am, Come and see all my decorations Mine are better than everybody else's and he may come. He's tinging things. He's got some metal bits over there and he's tinging them together. He should.
Speaker 2:She's like hey girls, here I am. I love that about some species of birds, that they just gather random crap to impress people.
Speaker 8:Yeah, so they're in the same I think they're in the same family as Birds of Paradise. So, yeah, anyway. So yeah, the dogs are good, apart from freezing to death because 13 degrees poor babies. But last week I was away. Some people may have seen the photos that I shared. I was at a northern hairy nose wombat festival and northern hairy nose wombat is the world's most critically endangered herbivorous wombat and it's the largest herbivorous wombat the largest herbivorous mammal, sorry, and there are 400 left in the world. Yeah, so that's my new work project is working with northern hairy nose wombat and you sharing the thing about beavers size. You did it in foreign and so I had no idea.
Speaker 2:It's like I did put it. I did put it in pounds, just because I think I would have to convert it for our American folks.
Speaker 8:So yeah, I've got no idea, but northern hairy-nosed wombats get to about 40 kilos yeah so they're huge. Yeah, yeah, and are about a meter long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty big. That's twice the size of a beaver. Yeah, okay, righto.
Speaker 8:Yeah, cool, a meter long, yeah, that's pretty big. That's twice the size of a beaver. Yeah, okay, right, yeah, cool. So, yeah, that's it at the moment. Oh, there may be in the tree there's a bird, I don't know if you can see it. Yeah, tiny bird doing its thing. But yeah, everybody's good here and they're doing their morning, sunday morning thing, which is sleeping.
Speaker 2:Nice, that was me. That was me this morning. I had a very lazy morning, so sometimes you need that I did that yesterday. Sometimes you need that.
Speaker 8:Yesterday was my first day home where I didn't have to go anywhere for more than three weeks.
Speaker 2:Jamie, while I have you here before we move on, there was a question for you. Kelly's wondering do you have koalas nearby?
Speaker 8:I do. Actually, I've had one in my driveway. What, yeah, we do have koalas around here. That was a huge surprise for me. I went out for a run one morning and that in my driveway and there was a koala, so I can share a photo of her in a bit. We also have another endangered animal nearby in my street, which is the northern quoll.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 8:And they are related to tasmanian devils, but they're carnivorous, little carnivorous um animals, so they probably weigh more at most, maybe three kilos. So they're about the size of a half-grown cat and they're what classed as whole animal eaters. They will eat the fur, the bones, the guts, everything of whatever it is that they catch.
Speaker 2:Okay cool. We keep learning new stuff about Australia every time you come in here.
Speaker 8:That's part of my job. I'll find the photo of the koala and I'll put it on twitter for you okay, sounds good, so kelly is watching very much yeah, kelly's watching on twitter twitter video, so she'll be able to see that.
Speaker 2:So yeah what?
Speaker 8:there you go, koala. Uh, there you go, kelly. I'll find it for you and I'll share it thanks, jam.
Speaker 2:Jamie, thank you very much. You bet, you bet you can stick around. Welcome to stay on stage, or yeah? Okay. So Chris, who's our first audio speaker over on Spaces? I didn't see the order that you brought folks up at.
Speaker 3:I just thought to request it once. So we'll go with Dr Tracy and then we'll go to the herd, and then we'll go to Paula.
Speaker 2:Kate.
Speaker 5:Hi everyone, how are you?
Speaker 2:Hi, we're good, Dr Tracy.
Speaker 5:We have seven cats and three dogs and they usually respond really well. And one of our dogs she's the boss of everyone, of course is part border collie and looks like a border collie, and she was lying on the living room floor and one of the cats jumped up on the couch next to me and I started petting him. His name is Moose and he is real, which is not why I named him Moose. I just named him Moose because it was the only name I could think of when he was a really little kitten and now he's about 15 pounds, so he's a big boy. So I was petting him and Shasta, the Border Collie, sat up and looked at him and she looked really upset and so she got up and she came over and she jumped up on the other end of the couch and she kept giving him dirty looks and so I reached over and petted her and it wasn't good. So she laid down and so I kept petting her and she never took her eyes off Moose and he ignored her completely.
Speaker 2:That sounds familiar.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, I figured you'd say that. And then she laid down on her stomach and scooted forward and took a paw and pushed him right off the couch and then she got petted all by herself.
Speaker 2:Was this the dog that pushed the cat off? Yes, was this the dog that pushed the cat off.
Speaker 5:Yes, oh see, beaker hasn't quite gotten that bold yet that brave to push Ginger off the couch yeah, she's never done this before and she's 10 years old. I'm really surprised. And the cat's up here now getting petted, but Shasta, the dog, is outside so she doesn't know about this. But last night in bed I had three cats in bed with me and Shasta came up on the bed and she looked around at all the cats and she got upset and she left the bed and left the room and didn't come back.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, oh, and left the room and didn't come back. Oh no, oh. That dirty look we are familiar with, because beaker has this look when she is not happy with the cat chris. Like how would you describe her look?
Speaker 3:it's her typical look. It's called rbf resting beaker face.
Speaker 2:Yeah but it's like she won't stare directly at her. It's like looking slightly off to the side but absolutely knowing the cat is their look.
Speaker 5:That sounds like the way Shasta was looking at Moose yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know what would happen if Beaker just threw the cat off the couch.
Speaker 5:That's the first time she's ever done this. I'm so surprised Get it.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm happy you shared the story. It's a pretty funny one and nobody really got hurt, Just maybe some pride.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yep, that's all.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Dr Tracy. Okay, Chris, who's next?
Speaker 3:The herd. So teen from the herd and then Paula Hello.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:How is everybody?
Speaker 2:We are good.
Speaker 1:Good, okay, my update this week Today it is little Barry's first birthday. Update this week Today it is little Barry's first birthday. He's the pup with all the birth defects that we weren't sure he was even going to make it 30 days Definitely didn't think he would ever stand up. I've only found evidence of one other dog with spina bifida that can stand, let alone walk. His walk is wonkyky and I love it and I just I can't believe it's been a whole year and he's still with us.
Speaker 2:That's great so.
Speaker 1:I I did.
Speaker 2:I which, uh, which post should I put into the nest? That, uh would be the best one. I turned around for one month and Barry stole kittens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Put that one up.
Speaker 2:Okay, that one's funny that just up.
Speaker 1:Okay, that one's funny, because that just happened.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's up there in the notes.
Speaker 1:Today I took the two little amputee kittens to get their sutures out and a client at my vet office has been following her story on Facebook. Absolutely loves her. It was pure coincidence that we were there. She adopted her. Molly is in her new home. Yay for Molly Ringwald. That put me down. I had seven cats this morning. That put me down to six and I was happy with that. The dogs still outnumber and I went out to get the lawnmower out of my shed and I hear meowing and lots of meowing. And it's so tiny. And way in the back corner is a black and white mama cat with four little black kittens. These cats are maybe 24, no more than 36 hours old. I live in the same weather pattern as you do. It still gets cold at night. So they're in my house in the kitty city. And boy did I make a good investment when I bought that I. I have 11 cats in my house now, you guys 11 cats I have 11 cats that's
Speaker 1:some of them do go legolas he shares. He goes over to our neighbor's house and he has an outdoor house and that's just how he's happy. He's a tripod, he can't hurt wildlife, he can't catch anything with just one paw. We don't feel like he's a threat to society. And my black cat Bing, she comes outside when I go where she'll hang out in the backyard. She's not a wanderer, she was when she was a gunshot wound and she's. Half of my cats have all been hurt by outside and they just think it's bad. But I feel you on the ginger flip. I've been there.
Speaker 2:The ginger flip.
Speaker 1:Yes, yep, that's an official name for that maneuver. Now, I love it.
Speaker 2:And we're also so happy that you like the article in Rolling Bone.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, that is amazing Because I have pretty one of the first copies out. I've read through the whole thing. I love all of it. I love a good dad joke and a good pun. So the top tracks of 2024, probably my personal favorite part. I have leaked comments to other dogs who are in the magazine to let them know that I saw them and you have people waiting for their copies and I can't wait for them to get them. It's so cool. Even my kids were impressed. They're like OK, first of all, the name is great. Cool. Even my kids were impressed. They're like okay, first of all, the name is great. Second of all, that is so fluffing cool that you guys have a magazine with dogs of Twitter and they know that I love Bunsen and Beaker and Ginger and everything. But I'm sorry, bunsen has a special place for me because I met him first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you bet.
Speaker 1:Yep, one of the very first dogs I met.
Speaker 2:So on live, I've got Rolling Bone. That's the magazine. People are starting to get it. It was one of the shipment sections was delayed a bit, which we apologize for, but they're all on the way to people and everybody should be getting them if you haven't got them already. So yeah, we're just really excited about that magazine. Very limited supply like we're I don't know 30 left or less. So nice yeah good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's definitely a collector's item and just really cool to have the article that you guys did for anderson cooper and the herd band. Just I choked up a little bit. Thank you for recognizing what we do, what I do here.
Speaker 2:That was the reason we wrote it. That one and the fake movie review were also from the heart, because that one's about Kuno and Chesney too.
Speaker 1:Yes, totally cool. Anyone who hasn't gotten it, I highly recommend you get it. It really is a piece of dog. Twitter history.
Speaker 2:Nice. Yeah, thanks for the update team.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. Oh, they must've heard a cat. Okay, we're going to have a bunch of that this week. Dogs hearing new sounds. I'm going to go feed them dinner. Everybody, have a great night.
Speaker 2:I'll try to jump in at the end of the show and listen up. Okay, sounds good. Okay, bye-bye, all right. So our next speaker in line is paula, and then we'll go to carla paula, you're first hi everybody, how's everybody doing? We're good. We're good.
Speaker 9:Hopefully you're well oh, I'm doing pretty well. And happy birthday to barry. He's such a cutie pie teen. I've been following him. He's just so sweet. You've done so well with him. But anyway we've had a crazy week.
Speaker 9:Trixie again is in puppy school too and she's learning stays and distracted stays. But she does her stays and waits really well because she tends to eat like a tornado in at home so we make her wait when her bowl is down so she doesn't swallow it in three seconds. But and I know they have those controlled bowls but it's just, she just does a fast eater. I don't know why, because this little dog is she. If anybody gets in her way with food, look out. But anyway, she's just a fun one. But she was in school and she's one of the smallest dogs in this class because we have another King Charles Cavalier His name is Prince and we have some big dogs like Pointers and there's a couple other big guys and we have, I think, two Great Danes. We have a gray one and a harlequin one whose name is Eleanor.
Speaker 9:I posted Trixie waiting. She's waiting and waiting and this big, huge Great Dane had to run down the hall in front of her so she would still stay in place and she did, she really did it. So we were very proud of Trixie. And then there was a couple more lessons where the instructor had to hold her and I had to walk down and she had to stay and she did. But she's not really super confident yet with people. She's still quite shy, which is funny because she's like 180 of that at home. So I don't know.
Speaker 9:And then she's been doing pretty well and I can almost relate to Dr Tracy because she she has my husband is her favorite and sometimes when he's on the couch and she's sitting next to him and I get up and I say, hi, trixie, and she gives me this glare like don't you come? And she's guarding my husband. So we're trying to break her that. We've talked to the vet and I said she's giving me I don't know if you ever see cats get that wild eye. Look, they get these dark eyes and she's looking at me like she's going to rip my head off and I'm like, really Two minutes ago you were licking my face, so we don't know. She's kind of going through some crazy stuff. So we're trying to get her a little bit settled, but that's why. But we're trying to nail down this kind of behavior and why she's doing it. We're perplexed, but my vet said she's acting like a spoiled child. She likes my husband and she's guarding him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dogs can resource guard even people, right? Yeah, it's not uncommon. There's dogs that resource guard food Dogs resource guard other dogs and dogs resource guard humans too she's been doing it with food too.
Speaker 9:So we're trying to break this and and she's actually had a very mild form of prozac right now because she's actually, you know, showed her teeth at me when I'm approaching and I'm like this is not acceptable because olive was so passive. And then it's like she's good. She actually is good 99 of the time, but then there's this time that she's doing this and it's really, you know, perplexing us because I've never had a dog that ever did that before. So if anybody has any suggestions but, like I said, other than that she's doing really good at school and the vet's happy that she's got something to do, because he said she's really, you know, got to be on the ball all the time doing something. So we might go for agility, because Chixie is very fast and when we throw the ball she just goes like the wind.
Speaker 9:So that's fun so I'm thinking of maybe trying that with her and maybe get some of that spent energy somewhere into something good. So we'll see what happens. But and then, oh, I wanted to ask Chris, many chickens chicks did you have in your? I saw the video of them hatching. They were so cute.
Speaker 3:I am so jelly because I always wanted chickens and I didn't know if you ever had how many you had this time around, or you know okay, gourd thought it would be a good idea to put 48 eggs in the incubator, and so far there's there was there's 10 so far, and they're still hatching and how long does it take for them to hatch?
Speaker 9:like a week, or is it? Are they days spaced between them and then do you have to start separating them once they get a couple of days old, because then do they fight, or how does that work?
Speaker 3:There's all of that, yes, and yes, all of the above. So right now they're upstairs. As they get moved from the incubator, they're getting moved upstairs. And then, yeah, I don't have a lot of experience with it, and Gord this is his first time he said I really should have maybe not put 48 eggs in there.
Speaker 2:It's going to be so many chickens. There's going to be so many chickens.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, Okay, It'll work out. They come out and then there's not a lot of room because there's all these trays. It's a bit of a times and shows. I tell you Adam might be able to speak to it more. Adam, can you tell us more about the chickens? Not more than what you said. I haven't seen them in a while.
Speaker 2:Adam's just on the couch behind Chris.
Speaker 9:All right, that's cool, they were really cute. So I hope, gordon, you guys, it'll straighten out somehow. But thanks for sharing that and everybody have a good week. And I'm glad Bunsen's better, because I was concerned and I'm still waiting for my rolling bone. I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2:So it's on the way. Yeah, the last mega pack ones. The mega pack ones were the ones that were delayed. By the way, yeah, the last the Mega.
Speaker 9:Pack ones. The Mega Pack ones were the ones that were delayed. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, I know that's okay. No, that's all right, because it gives me something to look forward to besides bills in my mailbox. So it's fun to open it up and say, oh, there's my rolling phone, so, no worries, I can't wait to see it. I would suggest anybody that wants to see it get one, because if they're limited supply, you won't be sorry that you missed out, because everything you guys do is always so cool. Anyway, you're welcome. Have a good week everybody.
Speaker 2:So, richard, your hand is up, go ahead.
Speaker 6:Hi everybody.
Speaker 6:Hi Richard. The county animal shelter where I live has been private for two years now, even though there are still county funds supporting the dog warden. And the dog warden still goes out and about and snatches people's dogs from them if they're violating any of the dog laws, but they won't have nothing to do with cats and the cats are literally taking over the county. People from town bring them out coast, where I live, and dump them out of the car and and there are so many of them every day it seems like I see another one here around my house and and they're starving literally I they're shredding everything they can get a hold of. That has a smell and I think it's ridiculous. And if the county is not going to support the dog pound animal shelter, I don't think they ought to be paying the dog warden. I think they need to privatize that too.
Speaker 2:It's a tough thing with cats. You're right, richard. We've covered I've covered that before on the science podcast that they they're like rabbits in that they can reproduce so fast and, as teen was saying, like it's cat kitty season right now, and if people have a cat and it's not spayed or neutered, that one cat can find another cat that's not spayed or neutered and then you have hundreds of cats within only a few years and that is a that's an untenable situation. It's just a really rough situation. So I like, even speaking about that, richard gives everybody a little bit of information and pause to think about. If we're getting a cat, we should probably spay and neuter it to not contribute to the overpopulation problem. Thanks for the comment.
Speaker 3:Richard Jason, you sound like Bob Barker.
Speaker 2:I liked how Bob Barker ended the prices rate with that, though that's something. Being a responsible pet owner isn't having your cats go wild and losing track of them and making a thousand cats. That's just putting your problem on somebody else, because it doesn't take long for one cat to have kittens, and those kittens have kittens and, like I said, in two or three years one cat becomes 100. That is a magnitude increase in cats.
Speaker 2:And then, of course, there's not enough food and, as Richard said, they don't have a great life. They're scrapping together to survive. Kristin, did you want to give us any kind of update?
Speaker 7:you're here with us, live yeah sure okay, I was also interested in talking more about trixie on her prozac and resource guarding, because we've learned a lot about that since we've had Georgia. So Georgia was just like probably nine or 10 months old when she started with the resource guarding and I think that was over, just like a location of the house. There was this one spot that she would just attack and she also gets jealous over certain people in the house and she also gets jealous over certain people in the house and, of course, food and toys, which we've had to take all toys away. We just split them up now so they can play separately, because she'll fight over those Even with the Prozac, because at first we did an exam at the vet to make sure that she wasn't like in any kind of pain and she checked out good and then we did training for us and for her and that didn't really seem to work very well.
Speaker 7:So then we had to go to the Prozac, which was almost like last resort had to go to the Prozac, which was almost like last resort.
Speaker 2:But I think, like dog parents, if you go through those steps, you shouldn't, like humans, have to take medication for human mental health. Right, there's people and dogs may need that as well, right?
Speaker 7:Yeah, but they're still doing really good. We've probably had September will be a year that she got put on Prozac and we've probably had three or four fights which is a lot better.
Speaker 7:That's way better so yeah, because if it didn't get better, we were going to have to probably keep them separate in the house, which I feel like would be hard and stressful keep them separate in the house, which I feel like would be hard and stressful. So we would have to look at like maybe rehoming one, which would be very hard, because it would be like how do you make a decision on who you rehome? Do you rehome the one that always was like a thing in my mind? Because if it ever came back, I'm like how do you decide? Atlas was here first, but georgia was the one that helped my son get over emma, and so it's. It would just be a really hard.
Speaker 2:It would be an impossible decision, yeah yeah, pretty much um thing we're doing good yeah, that's exciting because I think it was like it was fights every like when it was bad, it was quite often there were fights, right.
Speaker 7:Several times a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to say multiple times a week and only three times in Three or four times. Three or four times and maybe another time before a year. That's huge improvement, Huge improvement. There are some humans. There are some humans. I know that they think it's good if they go for a year and they only get in three or four fights.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I know one myself.
Speaker 2:One yourself Okay.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I was also going to ask about the rolling bone. Is it still on pre-order or?
Speaker 2:It's still on pre-order, yep, yep, can send you. We can send you one. If you sent, we'll just send you one, it's okay, kristen? Oh, okay yeah, just drop your address in on our dm and we'll send one out to you okay, cool, thank you yeah that's it for me, I think cool, cool. Okay, back to audio. Chris, you brought up some speakers. What's going on there? We?
Speaker 3:got we've got a lively bunch today I just don't want to give too much away, but there is a page where it's a testimonial about a product and it's actually two people on our chat right now who are part of the testimonial and we highlight bark and beyond supplycom I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:There's a whole page about barking and beyonds bark a whole page I about that. There's a whole page about Barking Beyond.
Speaker 3:A whole page. I didn't know. There was a whole page.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a fun little page that mixes you with another dog of Twitter, which is fun.
Speaker 7:Oh, is it the lamb? Chop one? I think so.
Speaker 2:It's cute, awesome. Okay, chris, who's up on speaking on audio? There you brought up two people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I brought up jamie and then adrian okay, so we'll go to.
Speaker 8:We'll go to jamie and then adrian so I was just going to say not only get your cats desexed, but get your dogs desexed too, because the load of on rescues and shelters when there are too many puppies is huge as well so that was my little, my bit a bit of community service announcement.
Speaker 8:So yeah, we've had when we were fostering puppies. We'd get five from Alita or something like that, or five-week-old puppies, and people didn't know what to do with a five-week-old puppy because oh, they cry. And I was like, really, of course it's going to cry, it's a five-week-old baby, it's a baby.
Speaker 8:And you've taken it from its mother and things like that. And yeah, so get your pets desexed. And for male dogs, if they don't have testicles, they don't get testicular cancer. There's those sort of things as well. So, yeah, get all your pets dissected. Thank you, Thanks, Jamie.
Speaker 2:Okay, over to Adrienne.
Speaker 1:Hi how are you guys Hi good.
Speaker 4:Hello, hello. So I wanted to say first of all, I'm so happy that Bunsen does not have to have surgery of all. I'm so happy that Bunsen does not have to have surgery. I have a Rottweiler who actually had to have both of his CCLs repaired within three months of each other during COVID. It was awful, but he's good now. He's great now, but so so happy that Bunsen does not have to have surgery and can get by with just rest and a brace. That's awesome.
Speaker 4:And then the other thing I wanted to say was we got our issue of rolling phone, and my dog is featured in there along with my dog's cat. I am not a cat person, but when my dog was about nine months old, I had him outside to go to the potty before bed and he found this tiny little, itty bitty kitten that was absolutely starving tiny, we think. He was just dumped in our backyard and that cat has now been living with us for the last five and a half years, and so both of our pets are featured in Rolling Bone and I just wanted to thank you guys for that. I love this magazine. It's great.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Aw, that makes me feel so good. Thank you for such a warm comment and what a sweet story too. Yeah, Do you know what page it's on?
Speaker 4:So my dog is featured in Rolling Bone style he is number nine.
Speaker 2:Rolling Bone style I love is number nine.
Speaker 4:Rolling Bones style. I love that. Yeah, yeah. So he is Ruger wearing the bandana.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then his cat kit wrote up the pet peeves.
Speaker 2:That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pet peeves by Kit Kat. Yes, that was really fun to write. I'm not going to lie, it is, that was really fun to write.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to lie. It is very cute. I like it a lot Awesome.
Speaker 2:So I guess if you want a copy of Rolling Bone, just check out our website. There's different packs. There's a bunch of people who got the bigger packs that we send a T-shirt the new vultures of parliament logo on it. So thanks for that. Okay, I think we're about done right, Chris.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I believe you've been through all our speakers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bunsen is getting a little barky. So we have Bark and Beyond always has a sometimes a little something for somebody, so we're going to have our draw. If you're watching live, drop a comment so we know that you're around and then we'll put you into the draw. So we got like a thousand people who more than that, a thousand? Some people watching live. We've got people on instagram and then, of course, the people on twitter. It's really easy to see who you are. So if you're watching us live, drop a comment so I know that you're here.
Speaker 2:I know not everybody can drop a comment. You need to have, like sometimes special the if you're on twitter, I think you need to be. You have that twitter blue to be able to comment on live. We'll give everybody a second here. Okay, we got a couple people commenting, perfect. So have you pre-ordered? Rolling bone, now you can order it. So we at pre-order prices. I'm just, I haven't put down the pre-order prices yet, so if you get in there this weekend, you'll probably still get the pre-order price with all the deals. And then, also, remember, at BarkingBeyondSupplycom you can use the code Bunsen and save yourself some money. Okay, looks like we've got. What is it? 28 people. Chris, we got 24, 22 plus another six 25.
Speaker 3:Mine says 25.
Speaker 2:Okay, so 27. Random number 27. Oh, we almost made it to the live chat folks who commented we almost made it. We're right at the very end and that's Jake at Towman 60. Jake at Towman 60. Jake at Towman 60. You have won Towman 60. Jake at toe man 60. Jake at toe man 60. You have one toe man 60, jake at toe man 60. I don't know if people could see that. All right, congratulations. Please contact bark and beyond supplycom. All right, okay, so I think we'll wrap up, unless you got anything else to add. Chris, have we covered everything?
Speaker 2:I believe we've covered everything okay, all right, his bunsen sounds like he needs some attention. All right, thanks for coming to pet chat everybody. What a fun little show. Thanks to everybody who's watching live and anybody who's listening or watching the replay. We'll see everybody back again same time, same day, next week for Pet Chat.